Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
I think one of the under-talked about things that this whole deal has shown is that our health care is pretty badass here. We’ve got good people and a great capacity and effectiveness [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
That's the ****ing POINT!
Jesus ****, do you understand anything about medicine and the medical community because you don't seem to know a goddamned thing about it.
The people being hit the hardest have underlying issues like high blood pressure, Diabetes Type 1 and respiratory issues. Doctors should not just give a dangerous medicine to a patient without first confirming that the medicine won't cause side effects, especially side effects that would lead to death.
So, until the Clinical Trials are completed, anything that anyone says about the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of this drug combo needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
So why do you, Pete and Bledred continue to push it as a lifesaving med, when it hasn't been proven to be effective?
You need to take a step back and chill the **** out.
A. I haven't claimed its anything more than a promising option. Ever. To say people who claim it has no evidence of being effective are wrong isn't making any crazy claims of effectiveness. It appears you are the one who needs to think about what they are claiming or saying.
B. I am fully aware of what the contributing factors are to the people being hit the hardest such as people with diabetes and other unhealthy factors. No idea why you think that relates to the effectiveness on using this drug on other people is.
C. Stop being an asshole just to be an asshole. I haven't done it to you or anyone else in this thread. You know who is being an asshole in this thread? People attacking posters who aren't being totally doom and gloom over everything. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 2112:
Teachers are crying that they’re working harder now remotely than they were in the classrooms. That’s never gonna happen
My school district started out online lessons Mon-Friday. This lasted about 2 weeks after spring break. We got an email and letter in the mail that the teachers were overwhelmed and Mondays would be teacher's day for preparing to evaluate and grading. Kids do online lessons Tues - Fri which is ok as they get there material to their laptops at 10 am and it takes them 2 to 3 hours and they are done:-) Personally I think the teachers are overwhelmed because they don't have all the assistants that they relay on. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think one of the under-talked about things that this whole deal has shown is that our health care is pretty badass here. We’ve got good people and a great capacity and effectiveness
This.
And I genuinely hope that this changes healthcare in the minds of the masses. These people are putting their own lives on the line right now in a way that’s not too dissimilar to what we celebrate firefighters, police and the military for. They aren’t dodging bullets, but they’re doing a dangerous job right now, no questions asked. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think one of the under-talked about things that this whole deal has shown is that our health care is pretty badass here. We’ve got good people and a great capacity and effectiveness
That, my friend, has been an argument I have made this entire time on why would not end up like Italy. Yes we have more cases. Yes we have deaths. But we are no where near the rate that they are at fortunately.
Just because of how big and spread out we are and the kind of society we have as compared to say China, we knew we were going to take it on the chin a bit. I mean NY\NJ are definitely skewing our numbers as well and for very obvious reasons. They literally live on top of each other so with that comes a cost I guess when this kind of shit happens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think one of the under-talked about things that this whole deal has shown is that our health care is pretty badass here. We’ve got good people and a great capacity and effectiveness
This is probably the most often thing missed on this topic. [Reply]
And I genuinely hope that this changes healthcare in the minds of the masses. These people are putting their own lives on the line right now in a way that’s not too dissimilar to what we celebrate firefighters, police and the military for. They aren’t dodging bullets, but they’re doing a dangerous job right now, no questions asked.
Little secret, when we have nurses call in with IT issues we jump through hoops much faster than we do when a doctor calls. And there is a reason for that. True story.... [Reply]
And I genuinely hope that this changes healthcare in the minds of the masses. These people are putting their own lives on the line right now in a way that’s not too dissimilar to what we celebrate firefighters, police and the military for. They aren’t dodging bullets, but they’re doing a dangerous job right now, no questions asked.
Hell, I think I'd rather dodge bullets than do what they're doing. [Reply]
And I genuinely hope that this changes healthcare in the minds of the masses. These people are putting their own lives on the line right now in a way that’s not too dissimilar to what we celebrate firefighters, police and the military for. They aren’t dodging bullets, but they’re doing a dangerous job right now, no questions asked.
Exactly
I mean you guys need to celebrate me more for what I’m doing right now. Putting myself out there doing what I’m doing
Originally Posted by srvy:
My school district started out online lessons Mon-Friday. This lasted about 2 weeks after spring break. We got an email and letter in the mail that the teachers were overwhelmed and Mondays would be teacher's day for preparing to evaluate and grading. Kids do online lessons Tues - Fri which is ok as they get there material to their laptops at 10 am and it takes them 2 to 3 hours and they are done:-) Personally I think the teachers are overwhelmed because they don't have all the assistants that they relay on.
In most cases, it's because teachers can reuse much of their lesson plans year after year. A teacher's first year teaching a class is always the hardest.
The sudden push to online suddenly turned them all into first year teachers and added the complexity of relying on parents to help and learning new technologies in a very short period of time. [Reply]
My mom is a 30+ year career nurse and is caring for COVID patients as we speak. She was one of the first in the metro area to catch this thing because of that. Fully recovered now and back at it.
She’s been my hero since day one, so nothing has changed in my eyes. Just hope more people see people like her in the same light after this is all said and done. [Reply]
