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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Ravens.
Direckshun 12:34 AM 12-03-2018
The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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Chiefnj2 10:30 AM 12-07-2018
I really hope the Ravens commit to the run the entire game. I want to make sure KC can easily beat a heavy run/TOP approach and not face anything like the Titans and Steelers the last few post seasons.
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St. Patty's Fire 10:33 AM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
I really hope the Ravens commit to the run the entire game. I want to make sure KC can easily beat a heavy run/TOP approach and not face anything like the Titans and Steelers the last few post seasons.
With Mahomes we win those games by 3 scores
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KChiefs1 10:35 AM 12-07-2018
https://youtu.be/MCteDrSKruw
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KChiefs1 08:00 PM 12-07-2018

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pugsnotdrugs19 08:06 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
I really hope the Ravens commit to the run the entire game. I want to make sure KC can easily beat a heavy run/TOP approach and not face anything like the Titans and Steelers the last few post seasons.
Completely agree.

Answer the bell Sunday and we can then have confidence that they can win this style of game.
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RunKC 09:34 PM 12-07-2018
Pretty simple:

Win this Sunday vs BAL=clinch playoffs
Win next Thursday vs LA=clinch division
Win vs SEA=clinch HFA

A milestone with each win if they win the next 3.
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Best22 09:36 PM 12-07-2018
Hope Mahomes can overcome this.

No Hunt, no Watkins vs. tough defense

He’ll have to carry the load
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BigRedChief 09:45 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Pretty simple:

Win this Sunday vs BAL=clinch playoffs
Win next Thursday vs LA=clinch division
Win vs SEA=clinch HFA

A milestone with each win if they win the next 3.
if NE wins out we can’t clinch HFA. We have to win vs. Raiders or the Pats lose to clinch HFA.
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:15 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
if NE wins out we can’t clinch HFA. We have to win vs. Raiders or the Pats lose to clinch HFA.
Believe he’s assuming a home week 17 win vs. Oakland, which is probably fair.
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RunKC 10:22 PM 12-07-2018
Yeah the Raiders at home should be the easiest game of the season. Those guys will already have their bags packed and ready to go on vacation for the offseason.

Nothing for them to play for.
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Bob Dole 10:26 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
if NE wins out we can’t clinch HFA. We have to win vs. Raiders or the Pats lose to clinch HFA.
I don't think that is correct.
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FAX 10:47 PM 12-07-2018
If we win out, it doesn't matter what the Cheatriots do (or don't do).

By the way, a lot of pundits are championing the Cravens in this deal. I'm not buying it. 4 of their 7 wins are against the Bills, the Bengals, the Raiders, and the Tacks. They have losses against the Browns and the Panthers (to name two). They did beat the Stoolers on the road, which might be impressive any other year, but overall I think they've been overly hyped due to their wacky QB/RB/WR rookie.

If Mahomes is truly an MVP-caliber quarterback, this is his chance to demonstrate to the national talking heads what the MVP award means.

Besides, we're playing this game at Arrowhead and Lamar won't be able to hear his own thoughts. I'm taking the Chiefs by at least 2 touchdowns and it won't be that close.

FAX
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BigRedChief 10:53 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
I don't think that is correct.
it is. Pats have the tie breaker. We have to finish 1 game better.

If we go 13-3 and the Pats win out at 13-3. We lose HFA.
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FAX 10:55 PM 12-07-2018
Personally, I think the best way to become the #1 scoring defense in the NFL is to play a bunch of crappy-ass offenses.

FAX
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RINGLEADER 10:56 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by FAX:
If we win out, it doesn't matter what the Cheatriots do (or don't do).

By the way, a lot of pundits are championing the Cravens in this deal. I'm not buying it. 4 of their 7 wins are against the Bills, the Bengals, the Raiders, and the Tacks. They have losses against the Browns and the Panthers (to name two). They did beat the Stoolers on the road, which might be impressive any other year, but overall I think they've been overly hyped due to their wacky QB/RB/WR rookie.

If Mahomes is truly an MVP-caliber quarterback, this is his chance to demonstrate to the national talking heads what the MVP award means.

Besides, we're playing this game at Arrowhead and Lamar won't be able to hear his own thoughts. I'm taking the Chiefs by at least 2 touchdowns and it won't be that close.

FAX
Agree with all of this.

The "experts" are all high on the Ravens beating three teams with collective records of 11-25 with a QB that can't throw the ball (Mahomes had more passing yards against the Rams than Jackson had in all three games combined).

The "experts" say that the Ravens defense will do something no one else has done this season and keep Mahomes from putting up 25+ points.

Could the Ravens win? Sure. Will they? Not a chance...
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