Since not many people are enjoying this (I started out enjoying it, but it has gotten kind of stale/boring), wondering if anyone has watched some of the non-MCU Marvel shows? Inhumans was horrible, Runaways and New Mutants were Meh. I liked Legion and Helstrom. I just started Cloak & Dagger recently and am 3 episodes in. Very slow going in developing the characters origins, but I'm actually enjoying it.
I’m enjoying it. I realize it’s not as innovative or unique as WV was, but it’s still solidly made.
I liked how they expanded on Zemo. Feels like they lightened him up and let Bruhl have some fun with him. I thought Zemo in CA Civil War was kinda boring. [Reply]
Zemo and Carter are the only two interesting characters so far. They had a huge swing and miss with the shrimp boat part and the new captain America is another big miss. There was an opportunity with the old guy who nobody knew about. Maybe he will come back with Carter and Zemo to try and save it. [Reply]
I really enjoy the sarcastic banter. That stuff is pretty right. Which there was precisely 0 seconds of in the last episode.
I wasn’t having too much trouble with the continuity/broke hero/just why shit.., until I read this thread :-)
I don’t dig the boat/sister storyline either.
I was pretty down with the heavy ass guilt/mental health/struggle stuff they were dealing out in the first episode. It wasn’t what I wanted, but it was pretty good.
I think the thing is we are like 2.5 hours in and it has just been a hodgepodge of story lines they hit hard and then forget about for awhile. Which I think ultimately boils down to the pacing being bad.
Stuff I think is pretty decent that have just abandoned.
-the government sabotaging Sam.
-Sams missions - if they weren’t going to include anymore of it why did they spend a whole episode on them?
-Bucky dealing with the guilt.
-Bucky trying to fit in with real people. The dating thing was really good.
-I’m not really into it but if you’re going to focus on FauxCap, I need more than 45 seconds in a week.
I think it’s just a matter of bad pacing. There is a big difference between what prime GOT did vs this. It’s just kind of disjointed because they’re trying to cram too much shit in because they think ZOMG WR HAVE 7 HOURZ. [Reply]
Picked up this episode. I think if they just cut 10 minutes from every episode it would be much better. And as far as Falcon being broke, that was all just a setup for this episode. A bit ham fisted and unnecessary, but at least there was a reason. Better than BvS. [Reply]
They should've made this series in a Keifer Sutherland "24" time sensitive narrative. It would've given the secret agent in desperation and paranoia vibe more credence. [Reply]
looking up at Walker with blood all over the shield
is just damned fine filmmaking.
The Nazis joke was funny. More jokes!
Spoiler!
The stuff about Walker struggling with the idea of the serum and struggling with what “won” him medals was solid.
Hoskins death was seen a mile a way but well done.
In the OU fight thread, someone posted something along the line of “man’s game demands a man’s price.” Pretty applicable here. Their “revolution” is getting serious. I mean fuck Walker and all but I come down closer on his side than Kylie’s.
So there are two left....man they better REALLY pick up. I'll give them a little credit. They did get the ball rolling a bit this week. The last scene was good. Are we to assume that Steve Rogers has died? It sure seems that way. I mean...he was just "old" at the end of Endgame...not dead. You'd think he'd have some input on some of this stuff. [Reply]
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So there are two left....man they better REALLY pick up. I'll give them a little credit. They did get the ball rolling a bit this week. The last scene was good. Are we to assume that Steve Rogers has died? It sure seems that way. I mean...he was just "old" at the end of Endgame...not dead. You'd think he'd have some input on some of this stuff.
I'm guessing that depends on contract negotiations between Evans and Disney. I don't know or remember all the details, but there were a lot of rumors at one point that Evans was adamant about finishing his contract and getting out. I saw something a few months ago that said now he wanted back in. Too lazy to search, and I may be remembering all this backwards. lol [Reply]
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The initial groundwork for Secret Empire was laid in the 2016 limited crossover series Avengers: Standoff! by Nick Spencer, Mark Bagley, and Jesus Saiz. In Standoff there was a moment that Captain America was transformed into his "former" self by Kobik, reverting him from a 90-year-old man to a young fit adult. This transformation was explored further in the ensuing ongoing series Captain America: Steve Rogers in which the transformation is revealed to have been masterminded by the Red Skull altering Captain America's memories making him a HYDRA agent and setting forth a plan to bring the American government to its knees and enable HYDRA to become the world-power that it was always meant to be.
