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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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Pasta Little Brioni 10:59 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
If Berry doesn’t play Thursday, the Chiefs lose.

Not because of what he brings to the field, but because the team witnessed guys like Hill and Ware play through injuries to endure a slugfest. If Berry pulls a “pain tolerance” excuse again, the team will say “fuck it - our supposed leader can’t muster guts, so why should we...”
Remember this week. Season defining.
This place has some of the dumbest takes in the history of sports
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GloryDayz 11:02 PM 12-10-2018
Pasta just took a(nother) ravioli crap and will call into work with red poop stains in his white jeans tomorrow.
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Chief Northman 11:03 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
This place has some of the dumbest takes in the history of sports
Nope.

Nothing corrupts a locker room more than a perception of some willing to pay a price, while others won’t. Seen it first hand as a player and coach. The false hope stories regarding Berry need to end, and soon. Shit or get off the pot.
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Flying High D 11:11 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Nope.

Nothing corrupts a locker room more than a perception of some willing to pay a price, while others won’t. Seen it first hand as a player and coach. The false hope stories regarding Berry need to end, and soon. Shit or get off the pot.
Hope the other 52 have slightly higher pain tolerance. Hope all of them don’t come up with, “Can’t play this week, feeling a little hinkey.”
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CasselGotPeedOn 11:16 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
If Berry doesn’t play Thursday, the Chiefs lose.

Not because of what he brings to the field, but because the team witnessed guys like Hill and Ware play through injuries to endure a slugfest. If Berry pulls a “pain tolerance” excuse again, the team will say “**** it - our supposed leader can’t muster guts, so why should we...”
Remember this week. Season defining.
Wow, you're stupid.
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Flying High D 11:21 PM 12-10-2018
Need someone smart to let us know how long Haglund is going to do this escapade.
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Halfcan 11:27 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Nope.

Nothing corrupts a locker room more than a perception of some willing to pay a price, while others won’t. Seen it first hand as a player and coach. The false hope stories regarding Berry need to end, and soon. Shit or get off the pot.
It is a bitter rival who we have beat 9 times in a row. It is at Arrowhead and the AFC West Title is on the line and Homefield Advantage- nobody gives a fuck about Berry's contract or his fucking heel. If he plays great, if not, he can stand alone and take notes like he has all year.

This is a Must Wins game- and we will win it!
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GloryDayz 11:35 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by Flying High D:
Need someone smart to let us know how long Haglund is going to do this escapade.
But wait, Pasta Boy says Haglund really really wants to play... Even Buffet-Andy is pimping the same story. :-)

But I suspect he'll play Thursday, I think my pressure has done its job.
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Flying High D 11:58 PM 12-10-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
But wait, Pasta Boy says Haglund really really wants to play... Even Buffet-Andy is pimping the same story. :-)

But I suspect he'll play Thursday, I think my pressure has done its job.
You’re a genius.
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BlackOp 12:19 AM 12-11-2018
This is the weirdest injury situation in Chiefs history....it'll be the 30th straight game he's missed.

The reason given is "pain management"...obviously KC brass is being disingenuous about this whole situation.

Players dont sit out entire seasons because of discomfort....
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Flying High D 12:23 AM 12-11-2018
The highest paid safety in the NFL.
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BlackOp 12:29 AM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by Flying High D:
The highest paid safety cheerleader in the NFL.
Fixed...
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Flying High D 12:32 AM 12-11-2018
Oops, thanks.
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BlackOp 12:39 AM 12-11-2018
Maybe there is some truth to the CT that he had surgery on the non-Achilles heel?...and the rash of early injuries forced them to keep him on the active roster? It's been four months of "discomfort" reports...that's a long time considering the level of treatment he has at his disposal.
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007 12:50 AM 12-11-2018
The Chiefs got this far without him. Finish without him. They don't need this distraction after the shit they had to endure last week with Hunt.
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