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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 09:49 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
But should they (New York) be lecturing others? The more fair question is: Would you rather have New York’s March or Phoenix’s June? I’ll take Phoenix’s June. I get that I’m a little biased since I live in Phoenix but I’m no Arizona apologist and I’m moving anyway so I’m as impartial as a Phoenician can be.
Considering what they've accomplished, sure, I'd take their advice on what to do to stomp this bug, and their advice on what not to do.

I'd rather have been in PHX in March and NYC now.
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O.city 09:53 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Death rate in what regard? Deaths per 100,000?

You think their drop in cases was due to herd immunity?
Based on all the info we have? Pretty close
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Donger 09:55 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Based on all the info we have? Pretty close
What information? The last I saw, antibody testing showed ~25% in NYC.
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Bearcat 09:59 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
But should they (New York) be lecturing others? The more fair question is: Would you rather have New York’s March or Phoenix’s June? I’ll take Phoenix’s June. I get that I’m a little biased since I live in Phoenix but I’m no Arizona apologist and I’m moving anyway so I’m as impartial as a Phoenician can be.
Lecture, no. But, they should have some lessons learned from all of this... doesn't necessarily mean it's one size fits all, but Arizona should take all the advice they can get right now.
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staylor26 10:04 AM 06-28-2020
“What they’ve accomplished”

:-)
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BigCatDaddy 10:06 AM 06-28-2020
If they are telling them not to put Covid patients back into nursing homes I would take that advice.
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O.city 10:06 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
What information? The last I saw, antibody testing showed ~25% in NYC.
We’re finding now that antibody testing may be undercounting because a lot of people don’t seroconvert and clear this thing with their innate response ie T cells and such. That won’t show up on a blood Elisa test selected for whatever antibody your looking for.
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Donger 10:07 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
“What they’ve accomplished”

:-)
Yes. Again:
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Donger 10:08 AM 06-28-2020
My understanding is that 25% of NY deaths came from nursing homes. What is it nationally?
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BigCatDaddy 10:08 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
“What they’ve accomplished”

:-)
Well they did kill accomplish killing a shit ton of people :-)
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Donger 10:09 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
We’re finding now that antibody testing may be undercounting because a lot of people don’t seroconvert and clear this thing with their innate response ie T cells and such. That won’t show up on a blood Elisa test selected for whatever antibody your looking for.
Okay. And does this finding show a percentage level required for herd immunity in NY?
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O.city 10:13 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Okay. And does this finding show a percentage level required for herd immunity in NY?
It’s not gonna be a certain percentage per say and you’ll likely get overshot which is what’s likely happened in New York and Lombardy that’s lead to such a high death count
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KCUnited 10:22 AM 06-28-2020
Add one more casualty, this one on a NY hillside
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Donger 10:23 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
It’s not gonna be a certain percentage per say and you’ll likely get overshot which is what’s likely happened in New York and Lombardy that’s lead to such a high death count
So they reached herd immunity in two months.
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lewdog 10:25 AM 06-28-2020
Yeah I’m not defending New York. Just like I won’t defend AZ either.
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