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Nzoner's Game Room>2018 STL Cardinals Thread
BigRedChief 05:51 PM 01-02-2018
Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster
Spoiler!

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BigRedChief 03:15 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by VAChief:
I think you are right, I heard he had negotiated that before signing.
if it was a contract between him and the Cardinals, surely they can work out going down to get right without involving the players association?
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Jewish Rabbi 03:24 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
if it was a contract between him and the Cardinals, surely they can work out going down to get right without involving the players association?
A player cannot be optioned after 5 years of Major League service time.
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ChiefsCountry 03:26 PM 04-18-2018
Holland's arm is shot. It was gone his last year in Kansas City, it was obvious then.
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BigRedChief 03:35 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
A player cannot be optioned after 5 years of Major League service time.
well then they and him have to come up with some BS to go on a DL rehab assignment. We can’t allow him to pitch like he has in games so he can get back on track. This team just isn’t good enough to lose games while he gets in game shape.
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Marcellus 03:35 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Holland's arm is shot. It was gone his last year in Kansas City, it was obvious then.
Yet he lead the league in saves last year.
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Marcellus 03:36 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
A player cannot be optioned after 5 years of Major League service time.
Not true.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...e260fbb19.html

Originally Posted by :
Holland would need to approve a temporary move back to the minors to finish working on his pitches. If he did let the Cardinals option him down, he would need to remain in the minors for 10 days unless a pitcher on the 25-man roster sustained an injury.

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ChiefsCountry 03:42 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Yet he lead the league in saves last year.
And he broke down in August last year. Holland's that old car that you got back a running and it did okay for a while then when it finally breaks down again you are screwed.

Sucks the Cards spend the money they did on him. Granted it's going rate for a closer and lucky it's only one year.
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Marcellus 03:48 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
And he broke down in August last year. Holland's that old car that you got back a running and it did okay for a while then when it finally breaks down again you are screwed.

Sucks the Cards spend the money they did on him. Granted it's going rate for a closer and lucky it's only one year.
Its only one year because Hicks is in the wings. Its more money than he is worth but the beauty is they don't absolutely need him for the whole season.

He is just filling a gap for now.

Get him in shape, use him sparingly (with Matheny yea right) and have him healthy and fresh if they make a run.
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BigRedChief 04:32 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Sucks the Cards spend the money they did on him. Granted it's going rate for a closer and lucky it's only one year.
$15 million risk total for a proven bullpen arm even if on the decline was a good deal. Everyone in baseball thought it was a great deal for the Cardinals. The Cardinals are sitting in piles of money. We weren’t counting on him when they started the season. Don’t cry for us.

Hicks could be the best closer in baseball in a few months. And he will be playing for meal money. And we got 6 years of control left.
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Jewish Rabbi 06:37 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Not true.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...e260fbb19.html
I don’t ever recall a veteran major leaguer approving a move such as that, but I could be wrong. Why would he want to go back to the AAA lifestyle when he gets his paycheck either way?
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Miles 07:08 PM 04-18-2018
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
And he broke down in August last year. Holland's that old car that you got back a running and it did okay for a while then when it finally breaks down again you are screwed.

Sucks the Cards spend the money they did on him. Granted it's going rate for a closer and lucky it's only one year.
He fell apart in August right around when he cut a finger on his pitching hand which gives me some hope.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 07:30 PM 04-18-2018
Give Holland some time to get his shit together before totally burying him. Remember how idiots were burying Pham based on his ST performance? Don't be that guy.
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Jewish Rabbi 01:06 PM 04-19-2018
Weaver getting completely shit on today. Won’t make it past 3. And we sent our only long reliever down today so O’Neill could sit on the bench.
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Pasta Little Brioni 01:08 PM 04-19-2018
Matheny the abomination
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kcpasco 01:20 PM 04-19-2018
Baseball Gods have cursed us with bad babip today.
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