As @DanGrazianoESPN notes, the players hope to be able to go back to the owners and continue negotiations. But one owner said “they won’t”. https://t.co/0m0x4J9LEP
48-48.5% split (roughly) between 1,700 players. 52-51.5% split among 31 owners?!...Yet this equation is supposed to make sense.����*♂️ Not to mention the .5% only happens if we agree to an extra game a season. #KnowYourWorthhttps://t.co/v1jNZG7ml9
Russell Okungs twitter page is literally full of all sorts of stuff about how the NFL does everything possible to fuck them...interesting from a player rep.
While I would tend to advocate more towards the players than the owners, that first tweet really rubs me the wrong way. It's not just the owners on one side of the equation, it's thousands and thousands of staff members who are paid from the owners pocket. From the water girl, to video staff, to marketing, to ticketing agents, to coaches, and doctors, nutritionists, to parking lot attendants, to concession workers, to sweat shop labor children in Vietnam making jerseys. Ultimately, the number of individuals supported by owners revenue stake may be in the tens of thousands.
Idk, that tweet really rustled my jimmies for some reason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kellerfox:
While I would tend to advocate more towards the players than the owners, that first tweet really rubs me the wrong way. It's not just the owners on one side of the equation, it's thousands and thousands of staff members who are paid from the owners pocket. From the water girl, to video staff, to marketing, to ticketing agents, to coaches, and doctors, nutritionists, to parking lot attendants, to concession workers, to sweat shop labor children in Vietnam making jerseys. Ultimately, the number of individuals supported by owners revenue stake may be in the tens of thousands.
Idk, that tweet really rustled my jimmies for some reason.
Yeah, it's got to be really difficult for each NFL owner to pay for all of those people when each team's gross revenue is only $180,375,000 dollars from the current TV contract.
I really feel for their plight. It must keep them up at night trying to figure out how they're going to pay for concession workers with that little amount of money.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Yeah, it's got to be really difficult for each NFL owner to pay for all of those people when each team's gross revenue is only $180,375,000 dollars from the current TV contract.
I really feel for their plight. It must keep them up at night trying to figure out how they're going to pay for concession workers with that little amount of money.
Martyrs, all 32 of them.
Lol
You know how it is bro. Mo money, Mo problems :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Yeah, it's got to be really difficult for each NFL owner to pay for all of those people when each team's gross revenue is only $180,375,000 dollars from the current TV contract.
I really feel for their plight. It must keep them up at night trying to figure out how they're going to pay for concession workers with that little amount of money.
Martyrs, all 32 of them.
What's their net profit after paying all the expenses (player's salaries included), taxes, and insurance? Do you think the players should get a larger share of the revenue than the owners? [Reply]
Originally Posted by MOhillbilly:
I doubt if the NFLPA agrees to the new cba.
They shouldn't. NFLPA is hands down the weakest union of the 4 major spots. Their big "win" last time was getting less padded practices. This time I expect the owners agree to stop testing for marijuana and that is the latest "big win."
The players are so short sighted. They really should take it to a work stoppage to actually get a bigger % of revenue, legit lifetime healthcare for vested veterans and guaranteed contracts. No one comes to the stadium to see the owners sit in their box. The owners will win this CBA negotiation as they always do. The players will always cave before getting anything of real value. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DrRyan:
They shouldn't. NFLPA is hands down the weakest union of the 4 major spots. Their big "win" last time was getting less padded practices. This time I expect the owners agree to stop testing for marijuana and that is the latest "big win."
The players are so short sighted. They really should take it to a work stoppage to actually get a bigger % of revenue, legit lifetime healthcare for vested veterans and guaranteed contracts. No one comes to the stadium to see the owners sit in their box. The owners will win this CBA negotiation as they always do. The players will always cave before getting anything of real value.
They never tested for Marijuana to begin with. It's been used as a under the table pain killer since the 1960s. They just use it as story when they want people gone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88:
They never tested for Marijuana to begin with. It's been used as a under the table pain killer since the 1960s. They just use it as story when they want people gone.
I would love to know where you get this info verified from. Every single other source says they test for it...
I'm going to use your red rep label to assume you have no idea what you are talking about. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DrRyan:
I would love to know where you get this info verified from. Every single other source says they test for it...
I'm going to use your red rep label to assume you have no idea what you are talking about.
What you're saying is you get your info by believing words on a page that you can't prove first hand. A rep bar has nothing to do with whether truth is spoken or not. Just means group think doesn't like it. Doesn't prove it wrong. Verified=you need to be told what to think.
You need approval. They've given them all sorts of pain killers for decades. Obviously weed is no different.
I've talked to a few hotel people and a strip club owner from the 70s, till know. Teams have entire floors and you can smell the weed all over the place. They obviously were never hiding it. In North Dallas 40, they show the jock smoking weed the morning after a game. The league knows.its always known. They accept and promote it withing their fence of trust and disclosure agreements in contracts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DrRyan:
They shouldn't. NFLPA is hands down the weakest union of the 4 major spots. Their big "win" last time was getting less padded practices. This time I expect the owners agree to stop testing for marijuana and that is the latest "big win."
The players are so short sighted. They really should take it to a work stoppage to actually get a bigger % of revenue, legit lifetime healthcare for vested veterans and guaranteed contracts. No one comes to the stadium to see the owners sit in their box. The owners will win this CBA negotiation as they always do. The players will always cave before getting anything of real value.
Their careers are shorter than other sports. They can’t afford a work stoppage and the owners use this as permanent leverage on the players union. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
What's their net profit after paying all the expenses (player's salaries included), taxes, and insurance? Do you think the players should get a larger share of the revenue than the owners?
First off, I based that figure on the current CBA and TV contracts.
$11 Billion x .52/32, for a total of $180 million and change for each team. That number does not include stadium revenue, ticket revenue nor team memorabilia, which is the only income not shared between all 32 teams.
Secondly, I have no idea what their Net Profit would be because I don't have access to their entire revenue stream nor expenses. I'd wager to guess they have plenty left over after paying their employees and insurance.
Lastly, I do not believe, at this point in time, that the players should have a higher percentage of Gross Revenues, even though those gross revenues are not shared with anyone outside of the NFL. I think a 51/49 split, Owners to Players or 50/50 would certainly be agreeable.
52/48, when the financials are closed to everyone outside of each organization, is bunk, IMNSHO. [Reply]