Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I've always had the perception that teams tend to value a next-year pick as being one round less than the same this-year pick.
That would put the value at:
2017 #10 pick - 1,300 points
versus
2017 #27 pick - 680 points
2017 #91 pick - 136 points
2018 1st round pick - 484 points is the equivalent of the 10th pick in the second round, so a one-round discount means it's a 10th pick in the first round.
So overall, it seems like a fair trade or even a good trade if you believe that rule of thumb. I personally think that the draft chart overvalues top-ten picks too much.
I hope Mahomes blows this trade out of the water. I just don't think I would have made the trade.
When it comes to 1st rounds, you aren't going to drop the value to a 2nd rounder.
Many people believe you don't trade the 1st rounders AT ALL because of their importance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
When it comes to 1st rounds, you aren't going to drop the value to a 2nd rounder.
Many people believe you don't trade the 1st rounders AT ALL because of their importance.
For a GM, you can argue that a 1st round pick in 2017 is worth more than the same 1st round pick in 2018. I tend to disagree with that. Other than saving a GM's job, they should be worth exactly the same over the life of a franchise.
If I was a GM, I'd trade every one of my picks in Year 1 for a slightly higher pick in Year 2, and then I'd do the same thing in Year 2. [Reply]
For me, it could not be more simple. IF you don't have a QB, you do what you have to to go get the guy who you want. If it doesn't work out, you do it again in a 3-4 years. I have been hard on Andy on game days but I do trust him more than most to develop and get the most out of a QB.
On the other hand, my GF is a diehard Bears fan and that was embarrassing watching them shit the bed... [Reply]
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
And his hands are barely larger than kaepernicks. Haven't watched all his film but how does he play in cold/wet conditions??
So here it comes. The systematic, unrelenting, dressing-down of the stud the Chiefs have hand-picked to clean the seat Alex Smith has been defiling with his feces and urine for four seasons.
You need to find a liquor store and put it out of business in about 2 hours. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
I'm glad they traded up too.
Trade value wasn't great though
QB is the sole position you give up value for if you think you can get your guy. Plus the Chiefs still have 8 picks including a pick in every rd. They still have tons of resources this year in a deep draft.
The Chiefs also getting rid of Alex in 2018 gets us almost $14 million.
Not too bad a deal IMO. We did lose value but I don't care as long as Mahomes turns out to be a good QB [Reply]
Things are pretty opposite of what I remember here a year ago post first round. That one ended up working out pretty well for us. Also, really enjoyed Dorseys comments on Mahomes. Love the work Dorsey has done in his short time here. [Reply]
In all honesty, this was a utter and complete steal.
After the Bears gave up picks this year and next, just to move up ONE spot, I figured the Chiefs would need to give up all of their 2017 Comp picks and a 2 next year.
But a late 3rd and a most likely, a late 1st next year? No brainer.
Buffalo is dumb.
The Chiefs will most likely, move up and down tomorrow, as they have the ammo. This team was never going to draft 10 guys, as there isn't room on the roster but they're in a prime position to land a OLBer, ILBer, RB, CB and guard.
Not too bad a deal IMO. We did lose value but I don't care as long as Mahomes turns out to be a good QB
I think that's the bottom line. If you get a franchise quarterback, anything is a good deal. Let's all sacrifice a chicken at our altars tonight that Mahomes becomes a name of legend. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
And his hands are barely larger than kaepernicks. Haven't watched all his film but how does he play in cold/wet conditions??
Alex Smith hand size: 9 3/8
Pat Mahomes hand size: 9 1/4
They basically have the exact same hand size :-) [Reply]
This is considered to be an exceptionally deep draft so I am happy that they were able to keep most of the picks this year. For all we know, the 2018 draft could be like the 2013, so at this point, we don't really know the value of that 1st round pick at this time. [Reply]