Originally Posted by 007:
I'm happy but guarded. Don't want to see Blackledge 2.0 and also not thrilled about giving up next years number one. Hoping this guy pays big dividends. He has to.
You're scared of something that happened over 30 years ago???? [Reply]
Originally Posted by ASS11:
Giving up two extra high picks for a guy who isn't even going to play in 2017 is a bit much for my tastes. Better QB prospects have been taken for a lot less.
I'm glad to see you back on CP, though. Let the rage flow, friend.
Sitting is the best for Mahomes. Anyone that's watched him play agrees.
Reid and Smith are the perfect mentors for a guy whose family has LIVED professional sports, meaning he'll be coachable.
I can't believe you're the same guy stumping for Tyler Bray in the first, yet have hesitation about Mahomes.
I see a lot of people on here celebrating but I don't see analysts calling this a fantastic pick. Dorsey is a great GM but he's busted on picks too. A lot of the excitement in here is coming from simply the fact that we drafted a QB in the first round but when you look at this and last year's QBs he is probably the third best of the group at best. Now, what he could be in two years remains to be seen. He's 21 and raw, this stupidity that he should start soon is foolish [Reply]
Value of the 27th pick - 680
value of the 3rd pick - 136
Value of 1st next year - unknown
Current Difference is negative 484
Lowest value of any 1st round pick - 590
so as of right now, we are 106 pts in the hole with no possibility of getting to even since you can't pick lower than 32.
To put that in perspective, if we pick in the middle of the 1st round next year, it's the 15th(1050 value) we would be in the negative 566 in trade value. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ASS11:
Giving up two extra high picks for a guy who isn't even going to play in 2017 is a bit much for my tastes. Better QB prospects have been taken for a lot less.
I'm glad to see you back on CP, though. Let the rage flow, friend.
You have said yourself:
No price is too high if you think the guy is a franchise QB..
They got the guy they wanted. You can tell by their reaction. No price was too high.
Your opinion of the prospect means nothing. Absolutely nothing.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
Value of the 10th pick - 1300
Value of the 27th pick - 680
value of the 3rd pick - 136
Value of 1st next year - unknown
Current Difference is negative 484
Lowest value of any 1st round pick - 590
so as of right now, we are 106 pts in the hole with no possibility of getting to even since you can't pick lower than 32.
To put that in perspective, if we pick in the middle of the 1st round next year, it's the 15th(1050 value) we would be in the negative 566 in trade value.
That chart means jack and shit anymore to anyone other than talking heads. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Sitting is the best for Mahomes. Anyone that's watched him play agrees.
Reid and Smith are the perfect mentors for a guy whose family has LIVED professional sports, meaning he'll be coachable.
I can't believe you're the same guy stumping for Tyler Bray in the first, yet have hesitation about Mahomes.
Oh, wait...
I never stumped for Tyler Bray. In any round. Or in any capacity as the Chiefs QBOTF.
I hope to god he's coachable because he has some real bad habits that have fucked a lot of QBs at the pro level. He has a lot of Johnny Football in him. And then there's the history of Tech QBs. Gross.
He was always a 2nd round prospect to me. And they just gave up 2 1sts and a 3rd for him.
That's a lot. They better be right or criticism will be absolutely valid, especially pending Watson's career.
But it's still better than sitting here bitching about Alex Smith, so, as I said previously tonight, I'll accept it, and will definitely be present at his first NFL start. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
I see a lot of people on here celebrating but I don't see analysts calling this a fantastic pick. Dorsey is a great GM but he's busted on picks too. A lot of the excitement in here is coming from simply the fact that we drafted a QB in the first round but when you look at this and last year's QBs he is probably the third best of the group at best. Now, what he could be in two years remains to be seen. He's 21 and raw, this stupidity that he should start soon is foolish
Gruden is comparing this trade to the trade the Packers made for Brett Favre [Reply]