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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Blow This Mofo Up Mock (12/13)
kccrow 11:29 AM 12-13-2017
Sign:
Malcolm Butler, CB (NE)
Butler is a premier corner in the NFL, sticking in coverage to his man, following elite receivers, and making plays on the football. He's also solid in run support, unlike Marcus Peters.
(reference J. Norman, X. Rhodes, P. Peterson)
5 years, $70.0 million, $15 million signing bonus, $35 million guaranteed
~ $11.0 million 2018

Christian Jones, ILB (CHI)
(reference V. Williams, D. Bates, C. Robertson, etc)
3 years, $8 million, $1.5 million signing bonus
~ $2.0 million 2018

Quinton Dial, DL (GB)
(reference Z. Hood, M. Unrein)
2 years, $2.3 million, $300k signing bonus
~ $1.0 million 2018

Justin Coleman, CB (SEA)
(reference J. Bademosi, M. Sherels)
2 years, $4 million, $1.5 million guaranteed
~ $1.5 million 2018

Denico Autry, DE/OLB (OAK)
(reference C. Washington, B. Mayowa)
2 years, $5.8 million, $1.5 million guaranteed
~ $2.2 million 2018

DaQuan Jones, DE (TEN)
(reference C. Heyward, C. Liuget, M. Daniels, D. Wolfe, etc)
4 years, $42 million, $13 million guaranteed
~ $7.5 million 2018

Trey Burton, TE (PHI)
(reference L. Toilolo, M. Lewis, etc)
3 years, $12 million, $5 million guaranteed
~$3.5 million 2018

Total: ~ $28.7 million 2018

Re-Sign:
Anthony Sherman, FB
(reference P. DiMarco)
4 years, $8.5 million, $2 million signing bonus
~ $2 million 2018

Tyler Bray, QB
(reference R. Griffen, K. Clemens, B. Weeden, C. Daniel, etc)
2 years, $2.4 million
~ $1.2 million 2018

Zach Fulton, OL
(reference T. Larson, M. Slauson, T. Johnson, etc)
3 years, $5.8 million
~ $1.8 million 2018

Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL
RFA Tender Original Round
~ $1.8 million 2018

Terrance Smith, ILB
ERFA Tender
~$630k 2018

Kevin Pierre-Louis, ILB
(a Zombo-esque deal)
3 years, $3.6 million, $600k guaranteed
~ $1.2 million 2018

Albert Wilson, WR
(reference R. Shepard, M. Goodwin, T. Gabriel, D. Inman, etc)
3 years, $10 million, $2 million guaranteed
~ $2.3 million 2018

Jarvis Jenkins, DE
1 year, $790k

Total: ~ $11.7 million 2018


Total Cap Space needed: $40.4 + $5 million buffer + $3 million effective draft = $48.4 million


Let walk:

LB R. Wilson (RFA)
WR D. Thomas
DB T. Mitchell
DB S. Terrell
DB K. Acker
DB P. Gaines
DL R. Miller
OL J. Devey
OL Z. Fulton
SP D. Colquitt

Other Transactions:

Trade Alex Smith, QB ($17 million cap space)
Chiefs trade QB Alex Smith to Jacksonville for a 3rd round selection in the 2018 draft and conditional 4th round pick in the 2019 draft. Jacksonville is in win now mode and their problems start and end at QB. Smith is a steady, reliable QB that doesn't turn the ball over (contrary to what they get from Bortles) and Tom Coughlin should favor bringing that into the fold if possible.
Trade Marcus Peters, CB ($1.7 million cap space)
Chiefs trade CB Marcus Peters to Los Angeles Rams for a 2nd round selection in the 2018 draft. The Rams may lose FA CB Trumaine Johnson. They can get a young, cheaper, replacement for the next 2 seasons and Peters can be closer to Chokeland.
Retire/Release Derrick Johnson, ILB ($8 million cap space)
Retire/Release Tamba Hali, OLB ($7 million cap space)
Release Demetrius Harris, TE ($2 million cap space)
Release Allen Bailey, DE ($6 million cap space)
Release Ron Parker, S ($5 million cap space)
Release Charcandrick West, RB ($1.7 million cap space)

Total Cap Space Gained: $49.4 million

Other Selection Notes:
Chiefs traded 2018 1st round selection to Buffalo for the 10th selection in the 2017 draft.
Chiefs traded 2018 5th round selection to Cleveland for Cameron Erving (OL)
Chiefs receive 2018 conditional 7th* round selection from Seattle for Isaiah Battle (OL). *Presumed 7th since Seattled traded their 6th round selection to Oakland in the deal for Marshawn Lynch.
Chiefs receive 2018 conditional 7th round selection from Arizona for Marcus Cooper (CB)
Chiefs receive 2018 conditional 7th round selection from Tennesee for David King (DL)
Chiefs traded 2018 7th round selection to San Francisco for Kenneth Acker (CB)

Draft:

2. Isaiah Wynn, OL, Georgia (6'2" 300)
2. (LAR/Peters) Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (5'11' 190)
3. Lorenzo Carter, DE, Georgia (6'6" 245)
3. (JAX/Smith) Armani Watts, FS, Texas A&M (5'11" 195)
4. Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia (6'4" 215)
6. Deatrick Nichols, CB, South Florida (5'10" 190)
6. (COMP/Foles) Linell Bonner, WR, Houston (6'0" 200)
7. (SEA/Battle) Anthony Sherrils, SS, Missouri (6'0" 200)
7. (ARZ/Cooper) Brandon Lingen, TE, Minnesota (6'5" 250)
7. (TEN/King) Spencer Smith, P, Memphis


Roster:
QB: P. Mahomes, T. Bray, K. Benkert
RB: K. Hunt, S. Ware, A. Hunt
FB: A. Sherman
TE: T. Kelce, T. Burton, B. Lingen
WR: T. Hill, C. Conley, D. Robinson, A. Wilson, J. Chesson, L. Bonner
OL: E. Fisher, I. Wynn, M. Morse, L. Duvernay-Tardif, M. Schwartz, P. Ehinger, B. Witzman, C. Erving, Z. Fulton
DL: C. Jones, D. Jones, J. Jenkins, T. Kpassagnon, Q. Dial, R. Nunez-Roches
OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, L. Carter, D. Autry, D. Nicolas, F. Zombo
ILB:, R. Ragland, C. Jones, U. Eligwe, K. Pierre-Louis, T. Smith
CB: M. Butler, D. Revis M. Hughes, S. Nelson, J. Coleman, D. Nichols
DB: E. Berry, A. Watts, D. Sorensen, E. Murray, A. Sherrils
ST: H. Butker, J. Winchester, S. Smith

Not sure I could expect 4 big-time transactions (acquire Butler and Jones, trade Peters and Smith) in one offseason, but at this juncture I'm gonna put some hope into it.
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The Franchise 11:32 AM 12-13-2017
What are you doing with Revis? I didn't see him being cut and I don't see him on the depth chart.
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kccrow 11:36 AM 12-13-2017
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
What are you doing with Revis? I didn't see him being cut and I don't see him on the depth chart.
Keeping him until I see reason not too. He's in there squashed up to Hughes. I forgot a ,....
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Direckshun 12:24 PM 12-13-2017
I think Peters is worth a 1st. He's got a couple All Pros under his belt.
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O.city 12:32 PM 12-13-2017
They're not trading Peters.

They'll play out the string and let him walk. No one is trading a first round pick for him either.
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Hoover 01:19 PM 12-13-2017
Fulton has started 44 games over the first four years of his career.


If you think you can resign a guy like that to a three year 5.8 million deal you are fu@king crazy. The Broncos gave Ronald Leary 4 years, $35 million. Larry Warford signed a 4 year, $34 million with Detroit. Now Fulton might not get 4 years 30 million, but he's not going to sign for 2 mil per. Stop under valuing players on our roster.

Dude is leaving because someone will pay good money for him, and we will get a nice comp pick.
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DaneMcCloud 04:47 PM 12-13-2017
So you're re-signing Fulton but cutting him.

That's a bold move, Cotton.
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DaneMcCloud 04:47 PM 12-13-2017
The Chiefs aren't cutting Charcandrick West. He's their best 3rd down back, by far, and a great blocker.

They're also not cutting Ron Parker or Allen Bailey.

In order to cut these guys, you'd have to acquire two starting players to replace them.

That's not happening.
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raybec 4 04:57 PM 12-13-2017
We desperately need a more effective pass rush, going into '18 counting on Ford is a fool's gamble.
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kccrow 07:14 PM 12-13-2017
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Fulton has started 44 games over the first four years of his career.


If you think you can resign a guy like that to a three year 5.8 million deal you are fu@king crazy. The Broncos gave Ronald Leary 4 years, $35 million. Larry Warford signed a 4 year, $34 million with Detroit. Now Fulton might not get 4 years 30 million, but he's not going to sign for 2 mil per. Stop under valuing players on our roster.

Dude is leaving because someone will pay good money for him, and we will get a nice comp pick.

Let's not pretend Fulton has ever played at a high level at either position. He's serviceable. The last guy I remember being just like Fulton? Dan Connolly (Patriots). He never did get a big deal. I'm not going to say you're wrong, but I'm not going to bow down and think you're right either. EDIT: That being said, I'd rather get a good comp for him if we can't re-sign him. Not really a lose situation for a 6th round pick.


Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
So you're re-signing Fulton but cutting him.

That's a bold move, Cotton.
Yeah, that was an oops.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
The Chiefs aren't cutting Charcandrick West. He's their best 3rd down back, by far, and a great blocker.

They're also not cutting Ron Parker or Allen Bailey.

In order to cut these guys, you'd have to acquire two starting players to replace them.

That's not happening.
West is fools gold. So is Akeem Hunt. Keep the cheaper one and hope a gem falls through the UDFA cracks.

I'd agree they probably won't cut either of these guys, but I did mock to replace them with DaQuan Jones in FA and Armani Watts in the draft.

Originally Posted by raybec 4:
We desperately need a more effective pass rush, going into '18 counting on Ford is a fool's gamble.
Added FA Denico Audry and drafted Lorenzo Carter. Not sure how much more you want there?
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BryanBusby 11:45 PM 12-13-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
The Chiefs aren't cutting Charcandrick West. He's their best 3rd down back, by far, and a great blocker.

They're also not cutting Ron Parker or Allen Bailey.

In order to cut these guys, you'd have to acquire two starting players to replace them.

That's not happening.
Allen Bailey has been mostly bad this year and is definitely a guy I can see them cutting. Parker probably is staying another year.
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smith11 01:38 AM 12-14-2017
im not so sure jacksonville will be in market for a qb--they lead their division with bortles and he had 2 really good games of late

could see arizona looking at smith to replace palmer--
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DaneMcCloud 10:03 PM 12-14-2017
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Allen Bailey has been mostly bad this year and is definitely a guy I can see them cutting. Parker probably is staying another year.
The problem is replacing Bailey.

This is a bad year for free agents.

The Chiefs are already thin at D line and cutting Bailey makes them worse.

I think he’s a near lock in 2018.
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BryanBusby 12:00 AM 12-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
The problem is replacing Bailey.

This is a bad year for free agents.

The Chiefs are already thin at D line and cutting Bailey makes them worse.

I think he’s a near lock in 2018.
Even with a thin FA class, I think he can he replaced with a cheaper option that would at least give you similar quality play.

No way he's worth keeping without a major paycut.
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DaneMcCloud 12:05 PM 12-15-2017
Originally Posted by kccrow:
West is fools gold. So is Akeem Hunt. Keep the cheaper one and hope a gem falls through the UDFA cracks
By all accounts, Charcandrick West is the most liked player in the Chiefs lockerroom. He's been a very solid 3rd down back this year and blocks his ass off.

It's not a good look to cut an effective, cheap and well liked player.
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