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Nzoner's Game Room>Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes
Wallcrawler 09:14 AM 01-16-2020
This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.
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O.city 08:44 AM 02-06-2024
When the opposing defenses gameplan involves "keeping the QB in the pocket and wanting him to beat them by throwing the football" you need to start looking elsewhere for a QB.
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RealSNR 09:33 AM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
When the opposing defenses gameplan involves "keeping the QB in the pocket and wanting him to beat them by throwing the football" you need to start looking elsewhere for a QB.

I mean the first part of that is still the major defensive strategy when going up against Mahomes.

But that’s just the best of a bunch of bad solutions
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Pasta Little Brioni 10:58 AM 02-06-2024
Chiefs put 8 in the box daring Lamar to throw. You can't pay a QB that much money and it be that easy to stop him
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KCJake 11:21 AM 02-06-2024
People sometimes talk about how certain players or people for that matter, have the "it" factor. So, Lamar Jackson doesn't have "it."
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KCJake 11:28 AM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
When the opposing defenses gameplan involves "keeping the QB in the pocket and wanting him to beat them by throwing the football" you need to start looking elsewhere for a QB.
Crazy he's a two time MVP getting compared to a guy that's in the greatest QB of all time discussion.
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Pasta Little Brioni 02:23 PM 02-06-2024
Lamar will never win a title...sorry Raven fans. I see you piece of shits rooting on the Niners on their boards :-) butthurt much?
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Chris Meck 06:11 PM 02-06-2024
Nobody would trade Mahomes for Lamar straight up.
Or Josh Allen. Or Joe Burrow.

Would you trade CJ Stroud for him? I wouldn't. Trevor Lawrence? Herbert? Nope. Nope.

Lamar is a unique talent, but you have to build an offense to suit his abilities. I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket.

It's what someone's going to have to do if they want to win with Justin Fields, too, he just can't run an NFL offense and beat you by making the reads and delivering the ball.
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Buehler445 06:19 PM 02-06-2024
I might take a gamble on Herbert or Lawrence. They’re close to entering Jay Cutler territory and Lamar can at least win.
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Rainbarrel 06:19 PM 02-06-2024
He's a Taysom Hill needing some Drew Brees
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DRM08 06:23 PM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Nobody would trade Mahomes for Lamar straight up.
Or Josh Allen. Or Joe Burrow.

Would you trade CJ Stroud for him? I wouldn't. Trevor Lawrence? Herbert? Nope. Nope.

Lamar is a unique talent, but you have to build an offense to suit his abilities. I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket.

It's what someone's going to have to do if they want to win with Justin Fields, too, he just can't run an NFL offense and beat you by making the reads and delivering the ball.
CJ Stroud is really one to watch. His sharp accuracy, arm strength, and mobility are all pretty impressive. Stroud is just 1 month older than Caleb Williams, but Stroud already has a full year of NFL experience including 2 Playoff games under his belt. He's only going to be 23 years old in the 2024 season. They have a young and enthusiastic coach leading the team. Could be a very high ceiling for Houston.
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seamonster 06:42 PM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
CJ Stroud is really one to watch. His sharp accuracy, arm strength, and mobility are all pretty impressive. Stroud is just 1 month older than Caleb Williams, but Stroud already has a full year of NFL experience including 2 Playoff games under his belt. He's only going to be 23 years old in the 2024 season. They have a young and enthusiastic coach leading the team. Could be a very high ceiling for Houston.

Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
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DRM08 06:49 PM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by seamonster:
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
He is much better at extending plays than Matt Ryan.
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Chris Meck 07:52 PM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by seamonster:
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
😂

No.
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tredadda 08:02 PM 02-06-2024
Originally Posted by seamonster:
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
A rookie Ryan isn’t taking that roster to a 10-6 record and an AFCS title with a dominating win over the Browns.
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RealSNR 09:23 AM 02-07-2024
Originally Posted by seamonster:
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.

Lol what? Ryan was a total statue
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