Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
We need Rustshack in here to emphatically and indignantly be occasionally right but just as frequently wrong about what's going on.
If only Rustshack were here....he'd straighten us all out.
Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois:
Also....I find the show visually and stylistically entertaining...but I could not describe the plot if my life depended on it.
The Cowboy was in hell reliving the worst week of his life again and again and again till the two angels came and got him to kill Jesse.
Jesse has the power to make anybody do what he says but has to be very specific about what he tells them. He can't use metaphors ie show her your heart, go to hell, serve god.
I wonder if we will see Odin's "god".
Jesse has a bad history as a criminal. Not sure how much they are saving for the next season ie Saint of Killers, Jesse's family, Herr Starr which I believe we already saw. [Reply]
The show took a pretty hard turn from the graphic novel, but frankly if they were to do this on any platform other than an HBO type of platform, they had to. WAY too much over the top shit, even for AMC, but they are doing a hell of a job with it. I've looked forward to every episode so far. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser: The show took a pretty hard turn from the graphic novel, but frankly if they were to do this on any platform other than an HBO type of platform, they had to. WAY too much over the top shit, even for AMC, but they are doing a hell of a job with it. I've looked forward to every episode so far.
after the season finale I watched talking preacher...never watched it before....
they said that the comic BEGINS where season 1 left off....Tulip, Cassidy and Preacher going to find God...and kick his ass if he doesn't want help. lol
I've refused to look up anything about the comic...I love this show so damn much...my fav thing on TV right now...and I don't care. i don't wanna know about the comic so I can be surprised by everything. (I had read much of the TWD comics and it kinda ruined some of the show for me)
PS - interestingly enough they mentioned in talking preacher that in the comics you never even see preacher preach! so they wanted to set up the characters for the viewers and then begin.... nicely done IMO
so anyways....you are obviously familiar with the comics.
do you agree with the talking preacher assessment that season 1 was just a setup to begin season 2 where the comics begin....or is there more to it than that? [Reply]
Originally Posted by frankotank:
after the season finale I watched talking preacher...never watched it before....
they said that the comic BEGINS where season 1 left off....Tulip, Cassidy and Preacher going to find God...and kick his ass if he doesn't want help. lol
I've refused to look up anything about the comic...I love this show so damn much...my fav thing on TV right now...and I don't care. i don't wanna know about the comic so I can be surprised by everything. (I had read much of the TWD comics and it kinda ruined some of the show for me)
PS - interestingly enough they mentioned in talking preacher that in the comics you never even see preacher preach! so they wanted to set up the characters for the viewers and then begin.... nicely done IMO
so anyways....you are obviously familiar with the comics.
do you agree with the talking preacher assessment that season 1 was just a setup to begin season 2 where the comics begin....or is there more to it than that?
I liked season 1 but in reality it could have been 4 - 5 episodes long just to get to the same place. As far as the comics go I have a passing familiarity with them, did some research before the show started on line.
Season 1 was a set up but why spend so much time on characters the basically died via a nuclear fart? Not sure why they went this route but looking forward to season 2. [Reply]
Caught up now . Totally lost, but highly entertained. I find myself looking forward to the next episode. The show is more confusing than the Chiefs parking plan. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Lee:
The season finale was good but it sort of makes me feel that the entire first season could have been condensed into 3 - 4 episodes.
Not the most scholarly, but a decent argument for the season.
I guess it depends on if you think that all the groundwork will payoff if we end up understanding the characters better in coming seasons.
It's a stupid question.
"was the season necessary?".....No. Full stop. It's television; nothing about it is 'necessary'.
You already know how the story is going to end (because if it doesn't, comic fanboys will have kittens), so why the big rush? Television is purely entertainment and that's the only question that needs be asked.
"Was the season entertaining?"
I think that's an unqualified yes. And as a consequence, comic book fans got to see 10 more episodes of Jesse Custer. Non-comic fans (such as myself) also got to see those 10 more episodes and in the process got a little of the context that is difficult to fit into television adaptations of anything. You can't really do character development as well in a non-written medium because it's hard to get into their heads. Well this way we can actually see what put those thoughts in his head.
Again, just too much gnashing and wailing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's a stupid question.
"was the season necessary?".....No. Full stop. It's television; nothing about it is 'necessary'.
You already know how the story is going to end (because if it doesn't, comic fanboys will have kittens), so why the big rush? Television is purely entertainment and that's the only question that needs be asked.
"Was the season entertaining?"
I think that's an unqualified yes. And as a consequence, comic book fans got to see 10 more episodes of Jesse Custer. Non-comic fans (such as myself) also got to see those 10 more episodes and in the process got a little of the context that is difficult to fit into television adaptations of anything. You can't really do character development as well in a non-written medium because it's hard to get into their heads. Well this way we can actually see what put those thoughts in his head.
Again, just too much gnashing and wailing.
I really like how Daredevil uses the priest as a conduit for what would normally be back and forth internal monologues in the comics medium. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's a stupid question.
"was the season necessary?".....No. Full stop. It's television; nothing about it is 'necessary'.
You already know how the story is going to end (because if it doesn't, comic fanboys will have kittens), so why the big rush? Television is purely entertainment and that's the only question that needs be asked.
"Was the season entertaining?"
I think that's an unqualified yes. And as a consequence, comic book fans got to see 10 more episodes of Jesse Custer. Non-comic fans (such as myself) also got to see those 10 more episodes and in the process got a little of the context that is difficult to fit into television adaptations of anything. You can't really do character development as well in a non-written medium because it's hard to get into their heads. Well this way we can actually see what put those thoughts in his head.
Again, just too much gnashing and wailing.
I think a little leeway is in order, if only to digest what we watched.
First off, my understanding is not much of this was canon, or was at least vastly expanded.
Second, it's fairly unprecedented for a show to annihilate almost all of its cast in its freshman season.
I think we can all land on the conclusions you've come to, even if we take a more circuitous route in contemplating the necessity of the season as essentially prologue.
It's not like you're seeing a rash of 'that's it, I'm out' sentiments after the finale. [Reply]
