Matt Miller Mock - Page 2

First one has us going Jordan Morgan and Jalen McMillan. Pretty sure this is DJ’s wet dream

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Originally Posted by staylor26:
Ok, so outside of your top 5, which WRs wouldn't be a disappointment?

McConkey.

Because assuming no Rice,

Kelce
Hollywood
McConkey

and one more cheap vertical guy more than enough to operate efficiently on offense.
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
First one has us going Jordan Morgan and Jalen McMillan. Pretty sure this is DJ’s wet dream

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1. Chicago Bears (from Carolina) — Caleb Williams, QB, USC
Team Needs: QB, WR, C, DL, CB
2. Washington Commanders — Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU
Team Needs: QB, TE, DE, CB, OL, LB
3. New England Patriots — Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
Team Needs: QB, WR, LT, DE, CB
4. Arizona Cardinals — Marvin Harrison Jr, WR, Ohio State
Team Needs: WR, OT, DT, LB, CB
5. **TRADE** Minnesota Vikings (Via LAC) —
J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan
Team Needs: QB, RB, DE, DL, G, C
6. New York Giants — Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
Team Needs: QB, WR, OG, DT, LB, CB
7. Tennessee Titans — Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
Team Needs: WR, OT, OG, CB, S
8. Atlanta Falcons — Dallas Turner, Edge, Alabama
Team Needs: QB, WR, DE, CB
9. Chicago Bears — Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
Team Needs: QB, WR, C, DL, CB
10. New York Jets — Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
Team Needs: LT, RT, WR, DT, DE
11. **TRADE**Los Angeles Chargers (Via MIN) — Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State
Team Needs: CB, WR, RB, TE, DT, LB
12. Denver Broncos — Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo
Team Needs: QB, WR, CB, DE, C
13. Las Vegas Raiders — JC Latham, OT, Alabama
Team Needs: QB, RT, RB, DT, LB, CB
14. New Orleans Saints — Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State
Team Needs: QB, OT, DT, WR, TE
15. Indianapolis Colts — Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
Team Needs: WR, OG, DT, CB, S
16. Seattle Seahawks — Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
Team Needs: DT, OG, DE, C, QB2
17. Jacksonville Jaguars — Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
Team Needs: G, C, DE, RB, WR, CB
18. Cincinnati Bengals — Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
Team Needs: RT, CB, TE, DT, WR, RB
19. Los Angeles Rams — Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
Team Needs: OT, EDGE, CB, ILB, QB2, RB
20. Pittsburgh Steelers — Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon
Team Needs: QB, C, LB, CB, WR, S
21. Miami Dolphins — Byron Murphy II, DL, Texas
Team Needs: TE, DT, S, WR, C
22. Philadelphia Eagles — Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa
Team Needs: CB, S, LB, WR, G
23. **TRADE**Los Angeles Chargers (Via MIN) — Brian Thomas Jr, WR, LSU
Team Needs: CB, WR, RB, TE, DT, LB
24. Dallas Cowboys — Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma
Team Needs: RB, IOL, LB, CB, OT, DT, S
25. Green Bay Packers — Troy Fautanu, T/G, Washington
Team Needs: OT, RB, S, DT, WR
26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Laiatu Latu, Edge, UCLA
Team Needs: RB, TE, G, C, DE, LB, CB, S
27. Arizona Cardinals (from Houston) — Darius Robinson, Edge, Missouri
Team Needs: WR, OT, DT, LB, CB, RB
28. Buffalo Bills — Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
Team Needs: WR, CB, S, DE, RT, LB, RB
29. Detroit Lions — Graham Barton OL, Duke
Team Needs: CB, G, C, DT, S
30. Baltimore Ravens — Chop Robinson, Edge, Penn State
Team Needs: WR, DT, CB, DE, LB
31. San Francisco 49ers — Ennis Rakestraw Jr., CB, Missouri
Team Needs: RT, CB, DE, OG, OC
32. Kansas City Chiefs — Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona
Team Needs: OT, WR, DT, CB, TE2, S

Round Two
33. Carolina Panthers — Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU

34. New England Patriots — Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia

35. Arizona Cardinals — Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia

36. Washington Commanders — Chris Braswell, Edge, Alabama

37. Los Angeles Chargers — Kris Jenkins Jr., DT, Michigan

38. Tennessee Titans — Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama

39. Carolina Panthers — Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon

40. Washington Commanders — Christian Haynes, G, UConn

41. Green Bay Packers — Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois

42. Houston Texans — Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State

43. Atlanta Falcons — T.J. Tampa, CB, Iowa State

44. Las Vegas Raiders — Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington

45. New Orleans Saints — Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota

46. Indianapolis Colts — Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon

47. New York Giants — Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan

48. Jacksonville Jaguars — Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan

49. Cincinnati Bengals — Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale

50. Philadelphia Eagles — Javon Bullard, S, Georgia

51. Pittsburgh Steelers — Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M

52. Los Angeles Rams — Adisa Isaac, Edge, Penn State

53. Philadelphia Eagles — Brandon Dorlus, DL, Oregon

54. Cleveland Browns — Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State

55. Miami Dolphins — Patrick Paul, OT, Houston

56. Dallas Cowboys — Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas

57. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Payton Wilson, LB, NC State

58. Green Bay Packers — Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia

59. Houston Texans — T'Vondre Sweat, IDL, Texas

60. Buffalo Bills — Blake Corum, RB, Michigan

61. Detroit Lions — Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina

62. Baltimore Ravens — Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas

63. San Francisco 49ers — Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida

64. Kansas City Chiefs — Jalen McMillan, WR, Washington

Newton would be the pick at 32.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
Change out Bullard for Ja'Tavion Sanders and I could fap to it.

I like Bullard too, but his role is too similar to Conner and Johnson for me to spend a 2nd.

Worthy and Sanders make this offense scary as shit.

I'd end up with Suamataia and McMillan if the draft went like that.

I'd be awfully awfully tempted to take Newton there, but OT scares the absolute shit out of me right now.

We can survive not upgrading DT and be fine. But if we sign a veteran LT like Smith and he gets hurt, that's putting so much on Morris and I'm just not there. The LT position falling apart would be more damaging to this season than any position but QB and we just don't seem to be treating it with any urgency at all.

I'll say this as well - even if I took McMillan at 64, if Javon Baker is there at 95 he's not getting past me. I'll double up. Those tools are so damn loud. He's raw but he's incredibly intriguing. He also has Amegadjie there at 99 and that's another fascinating prospect if we don't go OT earlier.

There are a lot of ways we could go with that board that I wouldn't mind. But I don't love much of what he did for us there.
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
McConkey.

Because assuming no Rice,

Kelce
Hollywood
McConkey

and one more cheap vertical guy more than enough to operate efficiently on offense.

So if the Chiefs don't end up with BTJ, Mitchell, or McConkey, you are going to be disappointed?

For a guy that loves to bring up Metcalf and McClaurin non-stop, it's odd that you wouldn't be comfortable with any other WR in one of the best classes we've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'd end up with Suamataia and McMillan if the draft went like that.

I'd be awfully awfully tempted to take Newton there, but OT scares the absolute shit out of me right now.

We can survive not upgrading DT and be fine. But if we sign a veteran LT like Smith and he gets hurt, that's putting so much on Morris and I'm just not there. The LT position falling apart would be more damaging to this season than any position but QB and we just don't seem to be treating it with any urgency at all.

I'll say this as well - even if I took McMillan at 64, if Javon Baker is there at 95 he's not getting past me. I'll double up. Those tools are so damn loud. He's raw but he's incredibly intriguing. He also has Amegadjie there at 99 and that's another fascinating prospect if we don't go OT earlier.

There are a lot of ways we could go with that board that I wouldn't mind. But I don't love much of what he did for us there.

I'd be good with Kingsley and McMillan too. That's solid.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
So if the Chiefs don't end up with BTJ, Mitchell, or McConkey, you are going to be disappointed?

For a guy that loves to bring up Metcalf and McClaurin non-stop, it's odd that you wouldn't be comfortable with any other WR in one of the best classes we've ever seen.

If I find another McLaurin sitting there, sure.

1st round talents don't typically drop to the end of the 2nd or 3rd round.

We just have different goals. You're happy with somebody that is ok and I want someone that can be a #1 or at least an elite compliment to one.

The urgency is because our #1 in Kelce is aging out before our eyes.

Why wait til he leaves to try to find his replacement?

You don't value the WR position as much as I do.
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If I find another McLaurin sitting there, sure.

1st round talents don't typically drop to the end of the 2nd or 3rd round.

We just have different goals. You're happy with somebody that is ok and I want someone that can be a #1 or at least an elite compliment to one.

The urgency is because our #1 in Kelce is aging out before our eyes.

Why wait til he leaves to try to find his replacement?

You don't value the WR position as much as I do.

So you think McClaurin was a better prospect than everybody in this draft outside of that top 6?

Nobody said anything about being happy with "ok". That's just your narrative for everybody that disagrees with you.

The truth is that there's basically no difference between late 1st and the 2nd when you're talking about success rate for finding WRs. Not to mention this is one of the deepest classes we've ever seen.

Guys like Brown and Metcalf go in the 2nd every year. We got Rice in the 2nd last year, and he was as good as any rookie WR, and would certainly be a 1st rounder in a redraft. You're just playing it safe/scared thinking it has to be WR in the 1st or bust.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
So you think McClaurin was a better prospect than everybody in this draft outside of that top 6?

Nobody said anything about being happy with "ok". That's just your narrative for everybody that disagrees with you.

The truth is that there's basically no difference between late 1st and the 2nd when you're talking about success rate for finding WRs. Not to mention this is one of the deepest classes we've ever seen.

Guys like Brown and Metcalf go in the 2nd every year. We got Rice in the 2nd last year, and he was as good as any rookie WR, and would certainly be a 1st rounder in a redraft. You're just playing it safe/scared thinking it has to be WR in the 1st or bust.

There is a Metcalf and AJ Brown in the 2nd every year?!

I’ll have some of what you’re smoking.

Seems like some good shit.
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
There is a Metcalf and AJ Brown in the 2nd every year?!

I’ll have some of what you’re smoking.

Seems like some good shit.

Maybe not quite as good as Brown, but yes, there's at least a low end WR1 or high end WR2 available in the 2nd every year.

I know you like to downplay Rice because you're a fucking weirdo, but he's a perfect example of this.

You had Pickens and Watson the year before.
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And I'm only talking about guys that went in the 2nd.

There are plenty of guys like Puka and Dell that go even later.

The point is that you don't have to draft a WR at 32 to find a really fucking good one.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
Maybe not quite as good as Brown, but yes, there's at least a low end WR1 or high end WR2 available in the 2nd every year.

I know you like to downplay Rice because you're a ****ing weirdo, but he's a perfect example of this.

You had Pickens and Watson the year before.

Watson is fine but he ain’t a 1.

Pickens is a knuckle head. He’ll get volume in fantasy now that Diontae Johnson is gone but Johnson is the better WR.

Rice is a good player but you go way beyond that to hopes and wishes. We don’t know what he can do yet because he was mostly a volume power slot.

And beyond that we now know he has character issues. So the 1 WR Veach drafted that was good in 6 years might not get a 2nd contract here.

Keep in mind you were good with Toney and Sky Moore and Justin Watson as featured players in a Mahomes prime year.

We have different standards.
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Watson is fine but he ain’t a 1.

Pickens is a knuckle head. He’ll get volume in fantasy now that Diontae Johnson is gone but Johnson is the better WR.

Rice is a good player but you go way beyond that to hopes and wishes. We don’t know what he can do yet because he was mostly a volume power slot.

And beyond that we now know he has character issues. So the 1 WR Veach drafted that was good in 6 years might not get a 2nd contract here.

Keep in mind you were good with Toney and Sky Moore and Justin Watson as featured players in a Mahomes prime year.

We have different standards.

Watson is a WR1 on a really good young offense. His only problem has been his hamstring, but he's put up WR1 production when healthy. At worst he's exactly what I said you can find every year in the 2nd, a low end WR1 high end WR2.

Pickens is coming off an 1,100 sophomore season with absolutely terrible QB play. He was the Steelers WR1 over Johnson last year, and will continue to be going forward.

Rice was every bit as productive as Metcalf as a rookie, and they both had a very specific/limited role as rookies, but the potential for even more growth is as obvious with Rice and it was with Metcalf.

Keep in mind that I told you we could win a SB with those guys, and we did. I never said that we shouldn't move the room going forward, that was specifically about last season and whether they were good enough to win a SB. You were wrong, but you continue to pretend otherwise.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
Watson is a WR1 on a really good young offense. His only problem has been his hamstring, but he's put up WR1 production when healthy. At worst he's exactly what I said you can find every year in the 2nd, a low end WR1 high end WR2.

Pickens is coming off an 1,100 sophomore season with absolutely terrible QB play. He was the Steelers WR1 over Johnson last year, and will continue to be going forward.

Rice was every bit as productive as Metcalf as a rookie, and they both had a very specific/limited role as rookies, but the potential for even more growth is as obvious with Rice and it was with Metcalf.

Keep in mind that I told you we could win a SB with those guys, and we did. I never said that we shouldn't move the room going forward, that was specifically about last season and whether they were good enough to win a SB. You were wrong, but you continue to pretend otherwise.

If every Tom, Dick, and Harry that catches a few passes is a 1 then sure, wait it out . Tank Dell is a 1! Why not.

Watson got 1000 yards in 2 years so he’s a 1 too.

You continued to promote garbage WRs as good and stated offense was still elite.

It wasn’t.

You were horribly wrong but nice change of subject to cover up your horrible takes.

Anyways, I want an offense that doesn’t punt a lot and you are fine with mediocrity.

Well have to agree to disagree.
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If every Tom, Dick, and Harry that catches a few passes is 1 then sure, wait it out . Tank Dell is a 1! Why not.

Watson got 1000 yards in 2 years so he’s a 1 too.

You continued to promote garbage WRs as good and stated offense was still elite.

It wasn’t.

You were horribly wrong but nice change of subject to cover up your horrible takes.

Anyways, I want an offense that doesn’t punt a lot and you are fine with mediocrity.
It
Well have to agree to disagree.

I didn't fucking say Dell was a 1, but he was a high end WR2 at worst as a rookie. Dude had 700 yards and 7 TDs in 10 games. He easily puts up 1,000 and double digit TDs without the freak injury.

And again, I already pointed out that Watson's biggest issue is injuries, so posting his totals means absolutely nothing. On a per game basis, he's been a low end WR1, high end WR2. He is 100% the Packers WR1 going into next season too, in a really good room.

You have this idea that a WR1 has to be Tyreek, Jefferson, Chase, or Lamb. There are only 32 teams. Most WR1s are not that.
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