I think I liked it more than most in here but I'll admit my initial thoughts were, "how are they going to make a good Wonder Woman movie?" Harken to the days of the invisible jet she flew around, etc. and I had some serious doubts. They made her better than expected in BvS so that gave me some hope. The previews then actually seemed decent as well. Seeing the actual movie, I enjoyed it much more than any I'd seen recently. A very enjoyable movie and yes, she is gorgeous. I don't think they could have cast the movie better. She fits that role as well as Robert Downey Jr. fits Iron Man and Hugh Jackman fits Wolverine. Absolutely perfect for the role. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth:
It was DC's most cohesive film, and a step up. BvS, the director's cut, was a decent flick. Suicide Squad looked SO promising & was total crap .
WW isn't perfect, and has noticeable flaws, but little cracks as a film overall.
Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth:
It was DC's most cohesive film, and a step up. BvS, the director's cut, was a decent flick. Suicide Squad looked SO promising & was total crap .
WW isn't perfect, and has noticeable flaws, but little cracks as a film overall.
I saw the morning this morning. I thought the pacing was a little slow throughout but that all of the actors were perfectly cast and directed. What bothered me (besides the spoilers below, which REALLY bothered me) is that that film had an air of VFX - as if nearly everything was Green Screen.
I know that most people look past that these days but to me, it was fairly egregious. My hope is that with a bigger budget for WW2, we'll less VFX and more real sets and location shots.
Spoiler!
I hadn't read this thread since the movie was released because I wanted to judge the film for myself and not have any preconceived notions.
1. Like Frazod mentioned, I picked on the "twist" immediately. David Thewlis rarely plays a "good" guy and it was a dead giveaway when Danny Huston's character was given a "gas" that gave him energy. A Greek God wouldn't need that to become all powerful. So that was a let down.
2. This is HUGE, IMO, and I can't believe that no one has mentioned it. Why did Steve Trevor essentially commit suicide? It was completely and utterly unnecessary. He stole the plane with the deadly gas, he saw the destruction of the base and all he needed to do was land the plane safely, out of the hands of the Germans (who'd all been killed).
I realize that they needed a plot device in order for Diana Prince to finally become a God(ess) and Wonder Woman but even my 9 year old immediately said after the film "Why did Steve need to die? Why didn't he just land the plane".
I wouldn't call it a "plot hole" per se but it was awfully goofy for an otherwise well rounded and sharp script.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I saw the morning this morning. I thought the pacing was a little slow throughout but that all of the actors were perfectly cast and directed. What bothered me (besides the spoilers below, which REALLY bothered me) is that that film had an air of VFX - as if nearly everything was Green Screen.
I know that most people look past that these days but to me, it was fairly egregious. My hope is that with a bigger budget for WW2, we'll less VFX and more real sets and location shots.
Spoiler!
I hadn't read this thread since the movie was released because I wanted to judge the film for myself and not have any preconceived notions.
1. Like Frazod mentioned, I picked on the "twist" immediately. David Thewlis rarely plays a "good" guy and it was a dead giveaway when Danny Huston's character was given a "gas" that gave him energy. A Greek God wouldn't need that to become all powerful. So that was a let down.
2. This is HUGE, IMO, and I can't believe that no one has mentioned it. Why did Steve Trevor essentially commit suicide? It was completely and utterly unnecessary. He stole the plane with the deadly gas, he saw the destruction of the base and all he needed to do was land the plane safely, out of the hands of the Germans (who'd all been killed).
I realize that they needed a plot device in order for Diana Prince to finally become a God(ess) and Wonder Woman but even my 9 year old immediately said after the film "Why did Steve need to die? Why didn't he just land the plane".
I wouldn't call it a "plot hole" per se but it was awfully goofy for an otherwise well rounded and sharp script.
Spoiler!
The gas had a timer on it. It was going off no matter what.
The gas had a timer on it. It was going off no matter what.
Spoiler!
That's kind of a plot hole, too. I'm guessing that Brussels was the Germans target, which was about 50ish miles in the air from Veld but only a few miles from the North Sea. If I missed it and London was the target, that's even further from Veld.
He could have flown the plane at a high altitude over the North Sea, bailed and swam back to the short. The guy was a super spy and could have easily swam a few miles.
Also, I thought I saw him actually detonate the bomb with a gun. Did I miss something?
Anyway, that's my only issue with the film. I think they could have found a better plot device than Steve killing himself with other options were available
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Finally saw it the other day. Good movie. Worth going to see. Like all the other DC movies, it had it's slow points - but nowhere near as bad as the other movies.
My only complaint was the 2 teenage girls behind me that wouldn't shut up. I even gave them the benefit of the doubt that once the movie started, they'd shut up. Boy was I wrong. Talking at normal voices or even trying to talk over loud parts in the movie, reading EVERY word that came on the screen, and then playing on their phones. I tried the casual approach "Shhh"; "Please keep it down"; etc. That only made them do very loud "SHHHHH'S" every time anyone made a noise in the theater. I'm not one to tattle on them, but it wore thin & ruined a part of the movie for me & my family. Finally told front desk "Either you guys shut them the fuck up or I'm going to do it in a not nice way." They told them "Either you be quiet & put your phones away or we're kicking you out." Didn't hear from them again.
Sorry for the rant.....hate it when people talk excessively in movies. Especially when I spend $100 to see one.
That is why I rarely go to the movie theater now. between the rude jackass' and the excessive prices its just not worth the time or money. What really pisses me off is that the high end theaters in KC with bigger screens and IMAX are cheaper than the fucking shitty screens here. Its utter horseshit. [Reply]
I try to only do matinees or Alamo for the same reasons. I have yet to see anybody be loud and obnoxious at Alamo. Except during quote-a-longs where it is expected. [Reply]
Originally Posted by unlurking:
I try to only do matinees or Alamo for the same reasons. I have yet to see anybody be loud and obnoxious at Alamo. Except during quote-a-longs where it is expected.
Yeah, we pick a choose which movies are worth the expense. we never purchase drinks other than water cups and get the large popcorn with a free refill. [Reply]
That's kind of a plot hole, too. I'm guessing that Brussels was the Germans target, which was about 50ish miles in the air from Veld but only a few miles from the North Sea. If I missed it and London was the target, that's even further from Veld.
He could have flown the plane at a high altitude over the North Sea, bailed and swam back to the short. The guy was a super spy and could have easily swam a few miles.
Also, I thought I saw him actually detonate the bomb with a gun. Did I miss something?
Anyway, that's my only issue with the film. I think they could have found a better plot device than Steve killing himself with other options were available
Spoiler!
London was the target. He did detonate it with a gun, but it was Hydrogen based, so it burned really easily (think Hindenberg) so that's why he was able to detonate it like that.
I don't know the geography that well, so that part didn't trip me up
