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Washington DC and The Holy Land>GOP in four states gives Trump the debate questions in advance
NinerDoug 10:28 AM 09-06-2019
:-) Just kidding.

They're actually giving him the election in advance.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...engers-1483126

Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses as Trump challengers cry foul

The moves, which critics called undemocratic, are the latest illustration of the president's total takeover of the GOP apparatus.

Four states are poised to cancel their 2020 GOP presidential primaries and caucuses, a move that would cut off oxygen to Donald Trump’s long-shot primary challengers.
Republican parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas are expected to finalize the cancellations in meetings this weekend, according to three GOP officials who are familiar with the plans.

The moves are the latest illustration of Trump’s takeover of the entire Republican Party apparatus. They underscore the extent to which his allies are determined to snuff out any potential nuisance en route to his renomination — or even to deny Republican critics a platform to embarrass him.

Trump advisers are quick to point out that parties of an incumbent president seeking reelection have a long history of canceling primaries and note it will save state parties money. But the president’s primary opponents, who have struggled to gain traction, are crying foul, calling it part of a broader effort to rig the contest in Trump’s favor.

“Trump and his allies and the Republican National Committee are doing whatever they can do to eliminate primaries in certain states and make it very difficult for primary challengers to get on the ballot in a number of states,” said former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), who recently launched his primary campaign against the president. “It’s wrong, the RNC should be ashamed of itself, and I think it does show that Trump is afraid of a serious primary challenge because he knows his support is very soft.”

“Primary elections are important, competition within parties is good, and we intend to be on the ballot in every single state no matter what the RNC and Trump allies try to do,” Walsh added. “We also intend to loudly call out this undemocratic bull on a regular basis.”

Former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld said in a statement, “We don’t elect presidents by acclamation in America. Donald Trump is doing his best to make the Republican Party his own personal club. Republicans deserve better.”

RNC officials said they played no role in the decisions.

The cancellations stem in part from months of behind-the-scenes maneuvering by the Trump campaign. Aides have worked to ensure total control of the party machinery, installing staunch loyalists at state parties while eliminating potential detractors. The aim, Trump officials have long said, is to smooth the path to the president’s renomination and ensure he doesn’t face the kind of internal opposition that hampered former President George H.W. Bush in his failed 1992 reelection campaign.

Trump aides said they supported the cancellations but stressed that each case was initiated by state party officials.

The shutdowns aren’t without precedent. Some of the states forgoing Republican nomination contests have done so during the reelection bids of previous presidents. Arizona, GOP officials there recalled, did not hold a Democratic presidential primary in 2012, when Barack Obama was seeking a second term, or in 1996, when Bill Clinton was running for reelection.

Kansas did not have a Democratic primary in 1996, and Republican officials in the state pointed out that they have long chosen to forgo primaries during a sitting incumbent’s reelection year.

South Carolina GOP Chairman Drew McKissick noted that his state decided not to hold Republican presidential primaries in 1984, when Ronald Reagan was running for reelection, or in 2004, when George W. Bush was seeking a second term. South Carolina, he added, also skipped its 1996 and 2012 Democratic contests.

“As a general rule, when either party has an incumbent president in the White House, there’s no rationale to hold a primary,” McKissick said.

Perhaps the closest comparison to the present day is 1992, when George H.W. Bush was facing a primary challenge from conservative commentator Pat Buchanan. Several states that year effectively ditched their Republican contests, including Iowa, which has long cast the first votes of the presidential nomination battles.

Buchanan said in an interview that the cancellations overall played little role in his eventual defeat, adding that Bush won renomination “fair and square.”

But Buchanan said he was rankled by what he described as a concerted and ultimately successful GOP-led effort to prevent him from appearing on the South Dakota ballot. Buchanan said he felt confident that he could perform strongly in the conservative state, whose contest came just days after a New Hampshire primary that he performed surprisingly well in.

Not being able to compete there crushed him, Buchanan said.

“If you think you can’t fight city hall, try overthrowing the president of the United States,” Buchanan said.

Officials in several states said in statements provided by the Trump campaign that they were driven by the cost savings. State parties in Nevada and Kansas foot the bill to put on caucuses.

“It would be malpractice on my part to waste money on a caucus to come to the inevitable conclusion that President Trump will be getting all our delegates in Charlotte,” said Nevada GOP Chairman Michael McDonald. “We should be spending those funds to get all our candidates across the finish line instead.”

Kansas GOP Chairman Michael Kuckelman estimated it would cost his party $250,000 to hold the caucus, money he said can be deployed to win races.

Trump aides have long said they aren’t worried about a primary challenge and laughed off his Republican challengers. But the president’s political team has pored over past primary results and is mindful that unexpected things can transpire — such as in 2012, when a federal inmate received 41 percent of the vote against Obama in the West Virginia Democratic primary.
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EmojiMania 08:05 PM 09-06-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Yes, it would be pointless. He has record level approval from GOP voters. This is a really dumb topic.
How do you know that? ChiefsPlanet taught me polls are fake news and can't be trusted :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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GloryDayz 10:26 PM 09-06-2019
I'm so goddamned outraged over this!!!

Motherfuckers!!!!

Shit...

Poop.

GDI...

:-)
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Cosmos 10:33 PM 09-06-2019
Originally Posted by LiveSteam:
Your mom used to run my Pops underwear in her wash.
RIP Pops
And yet one shit stain survived...
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petegz28 08:26 AM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
So this isn't as bad as giving Hillary the debate questions in advance? Just skip the entire process and give him the election?



Giving Hillary the debate questions was worse?
You didn't seem to have a problem with it then. I don't like that this happened but on a scale of who has done what, this is trivial when compared what the DNC, media and democrats have done in the past. I'm not excusing or condoning it but let's not act like democrats were outraged when it was on their side.

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WhiteWhale 09:52 AM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by EmojiMania:
How do you know that? ChiefsPlanet taught me polls are fake news and can't be trusted :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Show me a post where Prison Bitch says that. Everything I see from him is very pro-poll (lol)

You don't get to hold him accountable for the views of people who are not him. That's called a s-t-r-a-w-m-a-n.
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Shaid 10:11 AM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Yes, it would be pointless. He has record level approval from GOP voters.

I mean in truth, that's valid. Having primaries for the sake of primaries doesn't make a ton of sense. I would think that perhaps both parties would want to take a look at it though and decide on what an appropriate level of support would be to enable primaries. We could say that Biden had the most support from the beginning on the Dem side and just to cancel primaries. It's obviously not to the level of Trump over his challengers. Maybe you say if there is no secondary challenger greater than say 5% that primaries aren't necessary. Seems it would solve for crap like this and having a rule on the books in your party would eliminate cries of foul.
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Prison Bitch 10:35 AM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by Shaid:
I mean in truth, that's valid. Having primaries for the sake of primaries doesn't make a ton of sense. I would think that perhaps both parties would want to take a look at it though and decide on what an appropriate level of support would be to enable primaries. We could say that Biden had the most support from the beginning on the Dem side and just to cancel primaries. It's obviously not to the level of Trump over his challengers. Maybe you say if there is no secondary challenger greater than say 5% that primaries aren't necessary. Seems it would solve for crap like this and having a rule on the books in your party would eliminate cries of foul.

I really didn’t follow this.
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Shaid 10:50 AM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I really didn’t follow this.
I'm simply saying that just because someone has the most initial support, it's not a reason to cancel. There should be a clear case of overwhelming support where it's clear noone else has a chance.
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EmojiMania 12:06 PM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Show me a post where Prison Bitch says that. Everything I see from him is very pro-poll (lol)

You don't get to hold him accountable for the views of people who are not him. That's called a s-t-r-a-w-m-a-n.
I have no interest in keeping track of the individual views of all you retarded deplorables. It's still salient that ChiefsPlanet as a whole is wildly skeptical (well, that's an understatement actually) of polls anytime they run counter to your narratives, yet raises no objections to polls when they don't. Even if PB is pro-polling, it's telling that none of the rest of you poll truther morons say jack shit in response to him.
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RodeoPants2 12:14 PM 09-07-2019
I understand republicans are very concerned about even the appearance of a rigged primary! Surely they will lose their shit over this!
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Prison Bitch 12:18 PM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by Shaid:
I'm simply saying that just because someone has the most initial support, it's not a reason to cancel. There should be a clear case of overwhelming support where it's clear noone else has a chance.
You compared a sitting President to a crowded Dem field where polling is tight. It really didn’t work.
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Prison Bitch 12:19 PM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
I understand republicans are very concerned about even the appearance of a rigged primary! Surely they will lose their shit over this!
Concerned? We laughed our balls off at the Dems. We wanted them to rig it and shit on 41% of their voters.
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scho63 01:03 PM 09-07-2019
See Trump gets FOUR states to give the Debate questions while Hillary got just ONE.

TRUMP > HILLARY
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WhiteWhale 04:20 PM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by EmojiMania:
I have no interest in keeping track of the individual views of all you retarded deplorables. It's still salient that ChiefsPlanet as a whole is wildly skeptical (well, that's an understatement actually) of polls anytime they run counter to your narratives, yet raises no objections to polls when they don't. Even if PB is pro-polling, it's telling that none of the rest of you poll truther morons say jack shit in response to him.
Yeah, it's far easier to lump everyone's views together and lie about people.

I know that's easier. It's what stupid and immoral people do. Lying about people you dislike is pretty much the bog standard method of bullying for young girls. I can see why it appeals to you.
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WhiteWhale 04:24 PM 09-07-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
I understand republicans are very concerned about even the appearance of a rigged primary! Surely they will lose their shit over this!
The GOP rigged the primary when Romney won.

Two wrongs do not make a 'who cares'.

It's a problem on both sides, but hey... you can cry 'hypocrisy' and suddenly two wrongs make a who cares.

Anyone who isn't a retard should generally disapprove of rigging primaries.
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