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rabblerouser 07:19 PM 07-08-2019
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-h...pWQ?ocid=ientp

I also believe the events included in the Holocaust have been exaggerated for several reasons...
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Amnorix 02:53 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I just have never heard anyone (let alone your hypothetical “international community”) ever make your moral argument. My assumption is most humans belive “all lives matter” and don’t distinguish deaths by invasion or by strong man.

As to philosophy, you may not be interested in it, but in Dante’s 9th circle he has the traitors. Maybe killing your own people isn’t “treachery” per se but it’s awfully close to me. And certainly closer than killing outsiders.

My last word on the subject will be this: I have no interest in the topic at all. Whether your own citizens or not, the acts engaged in by Stalin and Hitler were evil. Which was "more evil" based on some moral relativism standard (or otherwise) interests me not at all.
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Amnorix 02:54 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-h...pWQ?ocid=ientp

I also believe the events included in the Holocaust have been exaggerated for several reasons...

If any fuckwad wants to engage in a discussion in support of the POS OP regarding the "exaggeration" of the Holocaust, feel free to do so.
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Prison Bitch 03:00 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
My last word on the subject will be this: I have no interest in the topic at all. Whether your own citizens or not, the acts engaged in by Stalin and Hitler were evil. Which was "more evil" based on some moral relativism standard (or otherwise) interests me not at all.


BUT YOU MUST START A THREAD POLL WHICH MONSTER WAS WORSE STALIN OR HITLER OR TRUMP


:-)
:-)
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Merde Furieux 03:49 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
Who cares which evil **** was more evil
We sided with Stalin. Who murdered millions of people after the war. You're good with that. Understood.
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Merde Furieux 03:52 PM 07-09-2019
Cheka, the first incarnation of the Soviet secret police (NKVD), was established on this date in 1917. Many Jews played leading roles in the secret police, and even more fell victim to it. “About 40 percent of high-ranking NKVD officers had Jewish nationality recorded in their identity documents,” writes Yale University professor Timothy Snyder in Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin, “as did more than half of the NKVD generals. . . . The Great Terror could be, and by many would be, blamed on the Jews.”

“At the time when the NKVD was killing members of national minorities, most of its leading officers were themselves members of national minorities…. In carrying out these ethnic massacres, which of course they had to if they wished to preserve their positions and their lives, they comprised an ethic of internationalism, which must have been important to some of them. Then they were killed anyway . . . and usually replaced by Russians.” —Timothy Snyder

https://jewishcurrents.org/december-...secret-police/
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Merde Furieux 03:58 PM 07-09-2019
During April-May 1940, the Polish prisoners were moved from their internment camps and taken to three execution sites. The place most identified with the Soviet atrocity is Katyn Forest, located 12 miles west of Smolensk, Russia. For years historians assumed that the grounds of an NKVD rest and recreation facility were both an execution and burial site for nearly a fifth of the unfortunate Poles who found themselves in Soviet captivity. Post-Cold War revelations, however, suggest that the victims were shot in the basement of the NKVD headquarters in Smolensk and at an abattoir in the same city, although some may have been executed at a site in the forest itself. In any event, the Katyn Forest is--and will probably long remain--the main symbol of the atrocity, even if it was not the actual killing field.

Memorandum on NKVD letterhead from L. Beria to "Comrade Stalin" proposing to execute captured Polish officers, soldiers, and other prisoners by shooting. Stalin's handwritten signature appears on top, followed by signatures of Politburo members K. Voroshilov, V. Molotov, and A. Mikoyan. Signatures in left margin are M. Kalinin and L. Kaganovich, both favoring execution.

The Katyn Forest massacre was a criminal act of historic proportions and enduring political implications. When Nazi occupation forces in April 1943 announced the discovery of several mass graves, propaganda minister Josef Goebbels hoped that international revulsion over the Soviet atrocity would drive a wedge into the Big Three coalition and buy Germany a breathing space, if not a victory, in its war against Russia. (A headline in the May 1943 Newsweek read: "Poles vs. Reds: Allied Unity Put to Test Over Officer Dead.") But Goebbels miscalculated. Despite overwhelming evidence of Soviet responsibility, Moscow blamed the Germans, and for the rest of the war Washington and London officially accepted the Soviet countercharge. When the Polish government-in-exile in London demanded an international inquiry, Stalin used this as a pretext to break relations. The Western allies objected but eventually acquiesced. Soon thereafter, the Soviet dictator assembled a group of Polish Communists that returned to Poland with the Red Army in 1944 and formed the nucleus of the postwar government. Stalin's experience with the Katyn affair may have convinced him that the West, grateful for the Red Army's contribution to the Allied military effort, would find it hard to confront him over Poland after the war.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...9-00/art6.html

Although Jews were not a larger majority in the Soviet Union than, for example, Germans, Poles, or the Baltic people, their dominance in the Leadership of the NKVD is tremendous: They represented the biggest single group, even before the Russians, who numbered more than 30-times as many people as the Jews.

http://vho.org/tr/2004/3/Rudolf325-327.html
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Merde Furieux 04:04 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by Merde Furieux:
"But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power that also persecuted them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...5/russia.books
Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the country's total population,5 they played a highly disproportionate and probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively dominating the Soviet government during its early years. Soviet historians, along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.

https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the "Russian Revolution." It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators."

https://archive.org/details/Solzheni...ereNotRussians
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NinerDoug 04:10 PM 07-09-2019
And now Trump gives us Jared Kushner. If there was any doubt that Trump is part of the global Jewish conspiracy to take over the World, no more.
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Merde Furieux 04:14 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-h...pWQ?ocid=ientp

I also believe the events included in the Holocaust have been exaggerated for several reasons...
Zionists inflated the body count by counting Poles and Slavs et al in an effort to sway public opinion to guarantee the moral imperative of a Jewish State (Israel).


Everything I have posted in HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.

What would eventually become Mosad (which in it's orgins employed former KGB/NKVD, Active CIA, and form Nazi SS officers believe it or not FACT) employed mind control through political correctness; anybody who strayed from the state sanctioned narrative was DESTROYED AND LABELED AN "ANTI-SEMITE" or an "ANTISEMITE" (there is an actual distinction) to shut them up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgCnpCBORyM

The Globalists (formerly known as Internationalists) cannot stand Poland and Hungary. Because they know the truth. It was locked in ice for 45 years during the Soviet occupation. Now that they are "free", the Globalists engaged in a campaign of flooding Europe with Muslims (Abrahamic connection). Because they CANNOT allow the truth to come out.

FROM CHAOS COMES ORDER

Look at Ukraine, the Globalists smear them at "neo-nazi's"...
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Merde Furieux 04:23 PM 07-09-2019
Marxists are officially “internationalists,” of course, and Trotsky was especially emphatic in rejecting his ethnic heritage. But does it necessarily follow that he was not influenced by it? “To judge by the appointments he made,” Solzhenitsyn observes, “Jewish renegades were closer to him than Russian renegades” (p. 92). Particularly striking was his appointment of the incompetent Jewish doctor Sklianski to a high post in the Commissariat of War.

The author goes on to discuss the roles of the Jews Uritsky, Drabkin, and Sverdlov in dispersing the Constituent Assembly, concluding with one of his strongest formulations: “by these sorts of operations the new Jewish form of government was sketched out” (p. 93).

He reproduces the remarks of some contemporary observers:

F. Nazhivin records the impressions he received at the very beginning of Soviet power: at the Kremlin in the administration of the Sovnarkom “you see nothing but Latvians upon Latvians, Jews upon Jews. I have never been an anti-Semite, but here there were so many it leapt out at you, and each one younger than the next.”

[The writer Vladimir] Korolenko himself, liberal and hypertolerant as he was, entered into his Journal in the Spring of 1919: “Among the Bolsheviks there are a great number of Jewish men and women. Their tactlessness, their self-assurance are striking and irritating. . . . In their ranks, and above all in the Cheka [the secret police], you constantly see Jewish physiognomies, and this exacerbates the still virulent traditional feelings of Judeophobia [among the population].” (p. 99)

Another witness quoted by Solzhenitsyn specifies that most of the heads of prisons were Poles and Latvians, while “the section charged with combating black marketers—the least dangerous and most lucrative—was in the hands of Jews” (p. 94). Jews are also said to have been unusually noticeable in the organs charged with provisioning (p. 97). Solzhenitsyn lists the names of ten Jewish bankers who provided important financial services for the Bolsheviks (p. 115).

https://www.counter-currents.com/201...soviet-russia/
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Prison Bitch 04:25 PM 07-09-2019
I saw Schindler’s List in college with my girlfriend. (Seriously, only a retard would take a date to that ). I kept asking all movie “But why were they being killed?”


Nobody in history has just randomly killed. You do it for love, money, fear, greed, religion, etc etc. In Schindler’s the only rationale we are give. Is “They are too prosperous”.



Now, for Hitler he did give his reasons, odd as they were. Stalin alternated between liking them and killing them. That’s some even weirder shit to me.
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KC Dan 04:28 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I saw Schindlerís List in college with my girlfriend. (Seriously, only a retard would take a date to that ). I kept asking all movie ďBut why were they being killed?Ē
I'm a retard. I was dating a girl in San Diego when that came out and she asked me to take her to that movie. I asked her, "Are you sure" and she said "yes". During the movie she turned to me and whispered "This didn't really happen did it?"

That was our last date...
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Prison Bitch 04:30 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
I'm a retard. I was dating a girl in San Diego when that came out and she asked me to take her to that movie. I asked her, "Are you sure" and she said "yes". During the movie she turned to me and whispered "This didn't really happen did it?"

That was our last date...

I mean this sincerely: Iím sooooo glad another dude did that! Iíve laugued about my idiocy for 25 years :-)
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Merde Furieux 04:31 PM 07-09-2019
Moses Hess was born Moritz Hess in Bonn on June 21, 1812. He received a Jewish religious education from his grandfather, and later studied philosophy at the University of Bonn, but never graduated. As correspondent for a socialist newspaper that he helped to found, he lived in Paris, fleeing to Belgium and Switzerland temporarily following the suppression of the 1848 commune and again during the Franco-Prussian war. When his father died in 1851, Hess used his inheritance to marry a prostitute, in defiance of social norms. Hess was originally an assimilationist Jew who turned first to utopian and then to scientific socialism. Hess was a friend and collaborator of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Hess converted Engels to Communism, and introduced Marx to social and economic problems. He played a an important role in transforming Hegelian dialectical idealism theory of history to the dialectical materialism of Marxism, by conceiving of man as the initiator of history rather than as a mere observer.

Hess was probably responsible for several "Marxian" slogans and ideas, including "religion is the opium of the people. He also is "credited" with Marx's notion that Jews were in love with money. However, Hess became reluctant to base all history on economic causes and class struggle, and he came to see the struggle of races, or nationalities, as the prime factor of past history. From 1861 to 1863 he lived in Germany, where he became acquainted with the rising tide of German Anti-Semitism and the assimilationist Jewish movement. He changed his name to Moses in protest against assimilationism. In this period he apparently returned to religion in the form of Spinoza's pantheism, which he somehow did not find incompatible with orthodoxy. . He published "Rome and Jerusalem " in 1862. Hess contemplated the rise of Italian nationalism and the German reaction to it, and from this he arrived at the idea of Jewish national revival, and at his prescient understanding that the Germans would not be tolerant of the national aspirations of others and would be particularly intolerant of the Jews.

Hess's Rome and Jerusalem went unnoticed in his time, along with the rest of this writings. German Jews were bent on assimilation and did not heed Hess's unfashionable warnings. His work did not stimulate any political activity or discussion. Hess's contribution, like Pinkser's Autoemancipation, became important only in retrospect, as the Zionist movement began to crystallize and to generate an audience.

Hess died in Paris in 1875. As he requested, he was buried in the Jewish cemetery of Cologne. In 1961 he was re-interred in the Kinnereth Cemetery in Israel along with other Socialist-Zionists such as Nahum Syrkin, Ber Borochov, and Berl Katznelson.

http://www.zionism-israel.com/bio/bi...moses_hess.htm

Winston Churchill published an article in the Illustrated Sunday Herald on this date in 1920 titled “Zionism versus Bolshevism,” in which he called upon the Jews, a “people of peculiar genius,” to opt for being “national Jews,” not “international Jews,” i.e., communists — “world-wide conspira[tors] for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality.” “The conflict between good and evil which proceeds unceasingly in the breast of man,” wrote Churchill, “nowhere reaches such an intensity as in the Jewish race. The dual nature of mankind is nowhere more strongly or more terribly exemplified. We owe to the Jews in the Christian revelation a system of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of mankind . . . And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.”

https://jewishcurrents.org/february-...m-and-zionism/
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Merde Furieux 04:33 PM 07-09-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I saw Schindler’s List in college with my girlfriend. (Seriously, only a retard would take a date to that ). I kept asking all movie “But why were they being killed?”


Nobody in history has just randomly killed. You do it for love, money, fear, greed, religion, etc etc. In Schindler’s the only rationale we are give. Is “They are too prosperous”.



Now, for Hitler he did give his reasons, odd as they were. Stalin alternated between liking them and killing them. That’s some even weirder shit to me.
Hitler wanted to exterminate Communism which was historically a Jewish ideology.
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