Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Our bars, restaurants etc are closed to public seating (some restaurants are doing takeout/curbside delivery etc). The parks/playgrounds are closed and they're recommending no gatherings above 10 and those should be people that you live with. All concerts/events have been cancelled through April.
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Albuterol is a short acting beta agonist. The beta receptors in the lungs relax, but it causes an increase in cardiac contractility and heart rate. Tachycardia is common after use, as is tremor and anxiety.
Yep. My heart's racing and I'm shaking like Michael J Fox.
What's odd is that I've used an abuterol inhaler before with zero issue.
SpO2 and resting heart rate match at the moment - 94. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
your cilia and linings in your lungs are inflamed from the coughing. I’m assuming the inhaler is albuterol, correct? You will get use to the drug after a couple of times. Hear that a lot from first time users, this albuterol doesn’t help or makes it worse.
That’s still the best non-invasive and or non-dangerous drug we have for inflammation in the lungs. It’s a proven drug for over 30+ years. When you take the hit, breathe in deep and hold it for 10 seconds. Helps bypass the upper parts of the lungs that has to be raw by now and get down into the alveoli area of the lungs. When you get those alveoli popping open, your going to feel a lot better.
rescue inhalers make you more contagious? Who said that BS?
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
YOU'RE A DENTIST!!!
What am I supposed to do? Act like you're a decent person who doesn't wildly overstate his importance to society? Dentists get off on the suffering of others - it's the only explanation that can possibly exist for someone willingly taking on tens of thousands of dollars in debt for the privilege of putting his hands in people's mouths all day. Nobody would choose to do that if it wasn't because like like watching people squirm when they jam that damn pick in there.
And I will not take grief for being condescending from the likes of you, sir. I mean shit, you dare besmirch the good name of Canadian Mist? You have clearly exposed your true nature.
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Not the inhaler the nebulizer machine.
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All the nebulizer does is allow the saline to attach to the medicine at a single cell level. Makes it easier to pop open those alveoli immediately.
If you have the coronavirus inside the nebulizer where you put the medication, sure, it’s going to down to the one cell level too with the Albuterol. But, who isn’t putting the albuterol into the nebulizer in a non-clean enviornment? If so, your probably already nebulizing all kinds of bugs into you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
thats BS too. All the nebulizer does is allow the saline to attach to the medicine at a single cell level. Makes it easier to pop open those alveoli immediately.
I am surprised at your stance here. Nebulizer usage is ubiquitously known as an aerosol generating procedure.
There is tons of literature to support this. [Reply]
There is some serious libel occurring in this thread and I just won’t stand for it
I’m pushing forward society by doing what I do. That’s just facts. The oral health of the world probably depends on me. I don’t carry that weight lightly [Reply]
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Yep. My heart's racing and I'm shaking like Michael J Fox.
What's odd is that I've used an abuterol inhaler before with zero issue.
SpO2 and resting heart rate match at the moment - 94.
but, you have never coughed like this, correct? It’ll get better. Keep using the Albuterol. Use the method I previously told you about how to lessen the irritation. [Reply]
