About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.
I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that...
It's not about convincing Jon that he's the rightful heir. It's about convincing the rest of the aristocracy, and I just don't believe that's possible. Even if it was something Jon himself wants to do.
"Hey guys, I'm not really Jon Snow, I'm Aegon Targaryen VII, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna Targaryen, who I swear were totally married even though there's no record of that or of my birth. Here, just listen to my cousin Bran, who sees visions of everything that has, is or will ever happen all at once. You can totally trust us." [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
It's not about convincing Jon that he's the rightful heir. It's about convincing the rest of the aristocracy, and I just don't believe that's possible. Even if it was something Jon himself wants to do.
"Hey guys, I'm not really Jon Snow, I'm Aegon Targaryen VII, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna Targaryen, who I swear were totally married even though there's no record of that or of my birth. Here, just listen to my cousin Bran, who sees visions of everything that has, is or will ever happen all at once. You can totally trust us."
Which makes the whole "Littlefinger death" scene even funnier. I can accept the "pushing out of the moondoor" accusation because Sansa was there. But they're just going to believe everything else that they came up with? All because of Bran? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
Which makes the whole "Littlefinger death" scene even funnier. I can accept the "pushing out of the moondoor" accusation because Sansa was there. But they're just going to believe everything else that they came up with? All because of Bran?
They fucking hated that guy anyway. He wanted to ball out on Sansa and it was getting on peoples nerves. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
It's not about convincing Jon that he's the rightful heir. It's about convincing the rest of the aristocracy, and I just don't believe that's possible. Even if it was something Jon himself wants to do.
"Hey guys, I'm not really Jon Snow, I'm Aegon Targaryen VII, son of Rhaegar and Lyanna Targaryen, who I swear were totally married even though there's no record of that or of my birth. Here, just listen to my cousin Bran, who sees visions of everything that has, is or will ever happen all at once. You can totally trust us."
Actually there is a record of that, because Sam mentions the diary or journal of High Septon Maynard which Gilly actually found, which records the annulment and secret marriage between Rhaegar and Lyanna. There were also others in that birthing room who heard Lyanna speaking to Eddard Stark. If they come forward, it's all over. That is if they heard what was said. I just don't think Jon suffers from lust for power though. So will he want it, the same way Dany does.
Additionally, the Targaryen dynasty ruled for 300 years until the Mad King who's evil acts were responsible for Robert's Rebellion. Many of those old houses throughout Westeros were already there when the Targaryen's ruled. Some for longer periods of time preceding the Targaryens. Perhaps they were descendents of the First Men? [Reply]
Originally Posted by underEJ:
I should be clear my magic blood theory is heavy on the tinfoil, and I should really call it anti-magic blood. :-)
I took it more as a figure or speech. Just the idea Jon was even resurrected is tin foil— as are wights, the Night King, army of the dead, dragons, children of the forest and their Three-Eyed Raven ( a greenseer with magical abilities), weirwoods, the Faceless Men, a Red Priestess, stone men, dragon glass, Benjen Stark and probably the whole damn story. It's a fantasy story afterall. [Reply]