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Easy 6 05:45 PM 08-02-2013
Cant recall ever seeing a thread on this topic so i thought it was time we had one... this thread is dedicated to military weaponry of any kind, from any era or nation.

There is a seemingly endless array of novel, fascinating, revolutionary or even ill-fated hardware out there so subject material shouldnt be a problem.

First entry coming up shortly...
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Easy 6 03:44 PM 03-19-2017
The First Rule of B21 Is You Do Not Talk About B21

https://www.defensetech.org/2017/03/...not-talk-b-21/

Cannot wait to see the real thing, and not just an artists concept... the wings will be dramatically shorter IMO
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Bowser 04:43 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Chinas J-20 stealth jet has entered service

https://www.defensetech.org/2017/03/...ghter-service/

It looks like they literally made a Firefox. Is Clint Eastwood flying that thing? "You MUST speak in RUSSIAN"


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Easy 6 04:46 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by Bowser:
It looks like they literally made a Firefox. Is Clint Eastwood flying that thing? "You MUST speak in RUSSIAN"

:-) I dunno... Clint is still an American Badass, but he is getting a bit long in the tooth for a mission like that
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Bowser 05:06 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
The First Rule of B21 Is You Do Not Talk About B21

https://www.defensetech.org/2017/03/...not-talk-b-21/

Cannot wait to see the real thing, and not just an artists concept... the wings will be dramatically shorter IMO
The SR-71 flew its first flight in 1964, and the general public knew nothing of its existence for over a decade. There is no telling what we have flying right now or for how long we have had it flying....
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notorious 05:08 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by Bowser:
The SR-71 flew its first flight in 1964, and the general public knew nothing of its existence for over a decade. There is no telling what we have flying right now or for how long we have had it flying....
Less than 20 years after the piston fighter era, and this thing was operational.


That is mind blowing.
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Easy 6 05:13 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by Bowser:
The SR-71 flew its first flight in 1964, and the general public knew nothing of its existence for over a decade. There is no telling what we have flying right now or for how long we have had it flying....
Secrecy until the end is probably best, I guess we'll see it when we see it

But you just know its going to be a sight to behold
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GloucesterChief 05:22 PM 03-19-2017
To bring this thread back to unique weapons I bring you the Francisca axe also known as the Frankish throwing axe. It is also how the Franks got their name.



Throwing axes are quite uncommon in large scale military use for several reasons. You can't throw them very far, you can't carry very many, and they don't really pierce armor or shields well. Usually a javelin or dart is a much better weapon for nominally melee infantry to carry.

The francisca has one property that makes it worthwhile despite all the drawbacks. It bounces, a lot and off of almost anything: the ground, shields, and people included. It also bounces quite high and since it is heavy it probably won't kill but it can injure.

Having a band of fighters all throw francisca's into the enemy formation would cause complete chaos as the axes bounce around and allow the fighters close in and to take on a broken enemy formation instead of a solid one.
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Easy 6 05:45 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
To bring this thread back to unique weapons I bring you the Francisca axe also known as the Frankish throwing axe. It is also how the Franks got their name.



Throwing axes are quite uncommon in large scale military use for several reasons. You can't throw them very far, you can't carry very many, and they don't really pierce armor or shields well. Usually a javelin or dart is a much better weapon for nominally melee infantry to carry.

The francisca has one property that makes it worthwhile despite all the drawbacks. It bounces, a lot and off of almost anything: the ground, shields, and people included. It also bounces quite high and since it is heavy it probably won't kill but it can injure.

Having a band of fighters all throw francisca's into the enemy formation would cause complete chaos as the axes bounce around and allow the fighters close in and to take on a broken enemy formation instead of a solid one.
Thanks for bringing the thread back to its roots, high tech weapons arent always the most beautiful... that ax looks very light, balanced, and easy to control

But clangs off things too easy because its on the light side

Watching "Forged in Fire" at the moment, so this is a perfect post

But the francisca/tomahawk isnt quite as outdated as some might think, they seem to still come in very handy on the modern battlefield

http://www.wearethemighty.com/uncate...ck-knives-mcut
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GloryDayz 06:53 PM 03-19-2017
Captions suck, and off topic, but a cool show nonetheless.


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GloucesterChief 09:59 PM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Thanks for bringing the thread back to its roots, high tech weapons arent always the most beautiful... that ax looks very light, balanced, and easy to control

But clangs off things too easy because its on the light side

Watching "Forged in Fire" at the moment, so this is a perfect post

But the francisca/tomahawk isnt quite as outdated as some might think, they seem to still come in very handy on the modern battlefield

http://www.wearethemighty.com/uncate...ck-knives-mcut
It is supposed to clang off things and most battle axes where small and light anyway. It isn't a killing weapon when thrown, it is a weapon to disrupt the enemy ranks before your guys charge in. Its functional duty is the same as Roman Pilum just better in wooded areas where you expect to be closer to the enemy before engagement.

Tomahawks aren't made to bounce, francisca's are as that is their function in battle, remember that they were thrown in a volley.
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Easy 6 05:05 PM 03-20-2017
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
It is supposed to clang off things and most battle axes where small and light anyway. It isn't a killing weapon when thrown, it is a weapon to disrupt the enemy ranks before your guys charge in. Its functional duty is the same as Roman Pilum just better in wooded areas where you expect to be closer to the enemy before engagement.

Tomahawks aren't made to bounce, francisca's are as that is their function in battle, remember that they were thrown in a volley.
Ah, so I kinda misread its use... its an occasionally deadly distraction to be thrown before you close in, got it

And the fact it tends to bounce off helps it to be picked back up and thrown by the man behind you?
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GloucesterChief 05:11 PM 03-20-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Ah, so I kinda misread its use... its an occasionally deadly distraction to be thrown before you close in, got it

And the fact it tends to bounce off helps it to be picked back up and thrown by the man behind you?
The fact that it bounces makes sure it hits the back ranks if it hits a shield or person. If it falls short it can bounce into the front line.
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Easy 6 05:21 PM 03-20-2017
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
The fact that it bounces makes sure it hits the back ranks if it hits a shield or person. If it falls short it can bounce into the front line.
It really is a beautiful, streamlined creation
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Easy 6 07:42 PM 03-25-2017
Is it time to retire the F-15?

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articl...-15cd-in-2020s
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Bowser 11:23 AM 03-26-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Is it time to retire the F-15?

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articl...-15cd-in-2020s
Interesting that in one breath they say they are considering retiring the entire F-15 model, then turn around and say they need thousands of new pilots to fill the ranks they are aiming for. If anything, move the F-15 to the Guard units, but do that only if the F-22 is ready to have the baton passed to it. Are there enough 22's to fill what would be the empty 15 ranks?
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