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Chargem 12:28 PM 03-05-2019
Trying to wait to do any more until the big boards are updated with combine information.
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ntexascardfan 12:44 PM 03-05-2019
Originally Posted by Chargem:
Trying to wait to do any more until the big boards are updated with combine information.
That's what I'm waiting to do as well.

I think Devin Bush performed his way into the mid first and thornhill performed his way into not making it to our second round picks.
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Chris Meck 11:29 AM 03-06-2019
after running several of these sims several times...

it looks like we can get two of the three categories in the first two rounds:
top 5 DE/EDGE
top 5 CB
top 5 S

but by round 3, they're gone.

This is why we really should move Ford for a #2 if possible.
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htismaqe 12:29 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
after running several of these sims several times...

it looks like we can get two of the three categories in the first two rounds:
top 5 DE/EDGE
top 5 CB
top 5 S

but by round 3, they're gone.

This is why we really should move Ford for a #2 if possible.
Yep. This is the exact conversation I was having with someone yesterday.

It doesn't look possible to get a good S, CB, AND edge. We have enough picks to get 2 of the 3 but probably not all 3.
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O.city 12:36 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yep. This is the exact conversation I was having with someone yesterday.

It doesn't look possible to get a good S, CB, AND edge. We have enough picks to get 2 of the 3 but probably not all 3.
I think you just have to go in there eyes open. If they can come out of the top 3 with 3 good players, no matter the position, i'll call that a win.

Even if only one of them is a CB, S or edge player, as long as they don't reach or do something dumb, it'll work out.
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htismaqe 12:59 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think you just have to go in there eyes open. If they can come out of the top 3 with 3 good players, no matter the position, i'll call that a win.

Even if only one of them is a CB, S or edge player, as long as they don't reach or do something dumb, it'll work out.
Certainly.
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ntexascardfan 12:37 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yep. This is the exact conversation I was having with someone yesterday.

It doesn't look possible to get a good S, CB, AND edge. We have enough picks to get 2 of the 3 but probably not all 3.
This safety FA class is deep enough that we can get a quality safety for cheap. Assuming Berry is back I'd get a guy like Tre Boston and then draft a CB + edge.

The thing we're ignoring with these mocks we post is Veach's talk about his FA board + draft board co-existing together.

If you want clues for what we are going to do in the draft look at where the FA market is deep. We'll likely be filling needs from where FA is the deepest and using the draft to fill in where we think it'll be tough to plug holes affordably in FA.

I think we go corner or edge in round one and sign a FA safety.
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Chris Meck 12:49 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by ntexascardfan:
This safety FA class is deep enough that we can get a quality safety for cheap. Assuming Berry is back I'd get a guy like Tre Boston and then draft a CB + edge.

The thing we're ignoring with these mocks we post is Veach's talk about his FA board + draft board co-existing together.

If you want clues for what we are going to do in the draft look at where the FA market is deep. We'll likely be filling needs from where FA is the deepest and using the draft to fill in where we think it'll be tough to plug holes affordably in FA.

I think we go corner or edge in round one and sign a FA safety.
Also think of it like this-you don't want multiple rookies on the field at each level if you can help it. One rookie in the secondary, one in the lb corps and maybe one on the line. Not multiples.

But I figure that we're going to need a CB to start. Less likely the front seven.
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ntexascardfan 12:56 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Also think of it like this-you don't want multiple rookies on the field at each level if you can help it. One rookie in the secondary, one in the lb corps and maybe one on the line. Not multiples.

But I figure that we're going to need a CB to start. Less likely the front seven.
In my dream world Berry is actually healthy + plays this year.

We can sign someone like Tre Boston on a team friendly deal.

We cut or trade Houston and have the dollars to sign CJ Mosley.

Then we can take a corner in the first and find an edge in the second.

Your defense would be
Dline
Ford, Jones, Nnadi, Speaks

LB
DoD, Mosley, Hitchens

Corners
Fuller, drafted CB

Safeties
Berry, Boston

That's a defense that will be more than servicable
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htismaqe 01:01 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Also think of it like this-you don't want multiple rookies on the field at each level if you can help it. One rookie in the secondary, one in the lb corps and maybe one on the line. Not multiples.

But I figure that we're going to need a CB to start. Less likely the front seven.
Yeah, they just can't go into this season with 4 or 5 rookies starting, along with a bunch of guys from the 2018 draft. They're going to need some veterans somewhere just to stabilize the defense.
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htismaqe 01:00 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by ntexascardfan:
This safety FA class is deep enough that we can get a quality safety for cheap. Assuming Berry is back I'd get a guy like Tre Boston and then draft a CB + edge.

The thing we're ignoring with these mocks we post is Veach's talk about his FA board + draft board co-existing together.

If you want clues for what we are going to do in the draft look at where the FA market is deep. We'll likely be filling needs from where FA is the deepest and using the draft to fill in where we think it'll be tough to plug holes affordably in FA.

I think we go corner or edge in round one and sign a FA safety.
Safety is arguably just as deep in the draft as it is in FA. It's MUCH deeper than CB in this draft.
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ntexascardfan 01:07 PM 03-06-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Safety is arguably just as deep in the draft as it is in FA. It's MUCH deeper than CB in this draft.
Yeah, but the corner FA market is trash.

It's easier for us to get a known commodity at safety than corner via FA.


I'd rather plug the safety hole with a known NFL commodity and take a guy like Trayvon Mullen 5-10 spots ahead of his projections and gamble on him growing into a great corner.
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Chris Meck 09:05 AM 03-07-2019
29


Amani Oruwariye

, CB
Penn State

61


Juan Thornhill

, S
Virginia

63


D'Andre Walker

, EDGE
Georgia

92


Darrell Henderson

, RB
Memphis

167


Stanley Morgan Jr.

, WR
Nebraska

201


Chris Slayton

, IDL
Syracuse

214


Dre Greenlaw

, LB
Arkansas

216


Alex Bars

, IOL
Notre Dame
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Chris Meck 10:44 AM 03-08-2019
I've run this thing and the fanspeak probably 20 times each.

If I go Safety at #29, either Abrams, Adderley, or Deionte Thompson is always there. in the second round either Jaylon Ferguson or Charles Omenihu plus a corner that's either Rock Ya-Sin, Mullen, or Oruwariye.

I think we realistically can get corner, safety, and DE help in this draft that should compete and play in year one in these first 3 picks no matter how it shakes out. If we get some combination of those guys in the first three, you can go TE, OL, maybe a slot guy, late RB competition and be in good shape.
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kccrow 06:49 PM 03-08-2019
These simulators are so far off every year I hardly spend a moment playing with them much anymore. Completely unrealistic rankings. 2nd round guys getting taken in the 5th and 6th rounds.
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