Can you imagine having a championship caliber quarterback and expecting that quarterback to be patient year-in and year-out for the bumbling mistakes, porous defense, and horrid clock management? I can't.
Some day, like Tony Gonzalez, Mahomes is going to be fed up if the Chiefs (and Andy) don't get their act together. Perhaps sooner rather than later.
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
We were a damn coin toss away from a super bowl in his very first season. We've already decided that he's not going to make or win a super bowl the next 10 years? It took Peyton a TON of failure before he won his. Because all it really takes to turn mahomes into a legend is to win 1. That's it. Andy makes dumb mistakes but he and mahomes are too good together for it not to happen.
I think you fail to realize that last year was Andy's last best chance to attend a SB. From here on out I think we all know he'll coach soft, the players will play soft, Clark won't demand shit out of Veach, Andy, or the players, we'll blame everything on injuries and Andy will play the "I take the blame/we'll learn from this" recording. Rinse and repeat...
It's just Andy Read dude, too old, too predictable, too slow, too "offense first", too egotistical, and sometimes just too damn stupid.
Originally Posted by JakeF:
If I'm Mahomes I'm gone. I'd refuse to sign and make the Chiefs tag me 2 times like Cousin did with Washington. That makes me huge money for 2 years and then I'm going to a team with a coach that I believe can win a super bowl. No way I become another Dan Marino.
Andy Reid would have 6 yrs to teach me how to be an NFL QB. Then i spend the next 10 yrs winning Super Bowls with someone else. I'd go play for Belicheat before i would stay and become a career loser with Reid.
I think those might be the thoughts that are creeping into his brain. He's been here just long enough to see the Andy-pattern, so that field in his brain has been tilled, planted, watered, and fertilized enough to grow some "Plan-B" thoughts. Of course he'll deny it, hell that's no different than Fat-Andy taking blame after every loss, you think it, but you deny thinking it... But in the end he's probably thinking that Andy's going to always do just enough to keep the SB snake-bitten Chiefs out of the SB, and he might as well cash-in before he leaves for a team with a coach that's more multi-dimensional. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
We didn't say Reid possibly getting fired was impossible. We said Andy Reid had more value as head coach of this team than people give him credit for. I brought up the point that many of the people demanding he be fired are current Todd Haley apologists. I also brought up that the entire NFL is littered with shitty head coaches, both current and former. Many of them, like Jason Garrett, lack Reid's brilliant and innovative play concepts and also struggle to call the best plays for the situation late in games. And many of them are just shitty fucking coaches. Period.
If/when a change is needed because the team isn't responding anymore (like Marty's 1998 season in KC) then yeah, we should fire Reid. And at that point, "just about anybody would be better" is a terrible attitude to take, because again, you're so damn focused on gameday decisions over actual fucking coaching and teaching.
It's pretty clear to me that Anthony Lynn can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. But he's not Reid, so therefore he probably makes all of the correct clock management and play calls in the 4th quarter and never fucks any of that shit up, right? Because he's not Reid!
What is your fascination with Anthony Lynn? It is YOUR fascination, because literally no one else is bringing him up as an option. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
REID REID REID REID REID REID REID REID REID DDDDUUUUUUHHHHHRRRRR!!!!!
That's what you sound like right now.
This thread is about ****ing Patrick ****ing Mahomes. The guy with all the talent.
I said only retards would entertain Pat leaving the Chiefs as a possibility after his rookie deal.
You turned it into Andy Reid. You said it was worse that somebody would defend Reid than anybody cluelessly suppose that Mahomes will leave the team.
You WERE the same guy lambasting against Cassel, Alex, and other teams' backups as our franchise QB for years and years, right? Why are you not ****ing up in arms over the topic of this thread? Do you not like nice things?
"Congratulations, Sweets! You just won the lottery!!!!" Do you respond with, "Doesn't matter. Andy Reid is still the head coach of the Chiefs"
Yes, we won the lottery, and we're going to spend it all at once on Mahomes saving our arses because of a lousy defense, and a lousy coach who won't go for it on 3rd and 2 with just minutes to play. So yes, we will exhaust our lottery money and then that's all she wrote. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
REID REID REID REID REID REID REID REID REID DDDDUUUUUUHHHHHRRRRR!!!!!
That's what you sound like right now.
This thread is about fucking Patrick fucking Mahomes. The guy with all the talent.
I said only retards would entertain Pat leaving the Chiefs as a possibility after his rookie deal.
You turned it into Andy Reid. You said it was worse that somebody would defend Reid than anybody cluelessly suppose that Mahomes will leave the team.
You WERE the same guy lambasting against Cassel, Alex, and other teams' backups as our franchise QB for years and years, right? Why are you not fucking up in arms over the topic of this thread? Do you not like nice things?
"Congratulations, Sweets! You just won the lottery!!!!" Do you respond with, "Doesn't matter. Andy Reid is still the head coach of the Chiefs"
Reread the thread title please, Andy is definitely referenced as a key player... And I'd say PM deciding to stay or go (or milk the Chiefs for the 'Franchise' tag years) as it relates to Andy's continued employment with the Chiefs is what this thread is about.
Fuck Fat-Andy, he's a moron of epic proportion and he might very well result in our FQB deciding to seek greener pastures. [Reply]
Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan:
he will learn to love another where there is a better team paying a king's ransome to have him
Oh ok so you don't think the Chiefs will pay him even though its already been floated he is about to have the highest contract in NFL history this offseason and only one team can give him a new deal this off season. :-)
He is also on the most offensively talent laden team in the NFL, he doesn't benefit going anywhere except maybe NE which isn't happening.
You all have gone brain dead. Stop being dumbasses. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
I already fucking told you and the entire board TWO WEEKS AGO that Mahomes would play hell getting out of KC.
I ALSO told you that he would give Reid no more than two more seasons to get the rest of his shit together before going to Clark with The Law of the Land regarding Reid's continued employment in KC, and I stand by that 100%.
Last week, Wendler and you thought that notion was impossible. This week? You can both kiss my ass, m'kay?
you also said we would go undefeated this season and that tim tebow was going to be a great draft pick... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Oh ok so you don't think the Chiefs will pay him even though its already been floated he is about to have the highest contract in NFL history this offseason and only one team can give him a new deal this off season. :-)
He is also on the most offensively talent laden team in the NFL, he doesn't benefit going anywhere except maybe NE which isn't happening.
You all have gone brain dead. Stop being dumbasses.
Pretty sure Mahomes doesn't want to be the next Marino [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Reread the thread title please, Andy is definitely referenced as a key player... And I'd say PM deciding to stay or go (or milk the Chiefs for the 'Franchise' tag years) as it relates to Andy's continued employment with the Chiefs is what this thread is about.
**** Fat-Andy, he's a moron of epic proportion and he might very well result in our FQB deciding to seek greener pastures.
All coaches have their flaws.
But, if all NFL coaches became free agents and the NFL had a draft. Reid would be drafted second. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Different era. The factors that caused Marino to never get another chance at the ring are not in place now. Welll besides rank incompetence.
The idea that Mahomes isn't about to sign a $200MM+ contract with the Chiefs this offseason is so absurd I can't take anyone serious who makes such stupid comments. You simply have to have your head so far up your ass you are blind deaf and dumb.
I get people are irritated with the loss Sunday but when you start spewing stupid shit, well it makes you look stupid. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
All coaches have their flaws.
But, if all NFL coaches became free agents and the NFL had a draft. Reid would be drafted second.
You are wasting time with him, he is to Andy Reid what Donger is to Trump.
Somehow people think the locker room culture is like it is here. I am 100% certain not a single player blames Andy Reid for that loss even though he blames himself. To think otherwise is pretty damn clueless. [Reply]
