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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BigCatDaddy 05:15 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
From Park Place in Leawood last Friday night. Maybe they will break the Ozarks record of Covid cases????

People can like it or don't like it but this is new norm.Same as the old norm and we arent going back.
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petegz28 05:23 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
That's exactly what I saw on Saturday. I kept my distance from that shit.

It's amazing how intentional people are on trying to catch it.
Yeah, they are intentionally trying to catch it......:-)
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BryanBusby 05:35 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yeah, they are intentionally trying to catch it......:-)
Yeah if you're that close to others and nobody is covered, that's pretty much intentional at this point. Even idiots should know better by now.
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petegz28 05:38 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Yeah if you're that close to others and nobody is covered, that's pretty much intentional at this point. Even idiots should know better by now.
Oh brother.......
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BryanBusby 05:40 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Oh brother.......
I know this is your schtick for 2000 pages and counting, but yeah pete. Glad I could clarify it for you.
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petegz28 05:44 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
I know this is your schtick for 2000 pages and counting, but yeah pete. Glad I could clarify it for you.
If you think people are intentionally trying to get sick then you are more idiotic than you think they are. True story.
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BryanBusby 05:47 PM 06-30-2020
Okay pete :-)

I'll let you rage on shitbird mountain for several more pages. Have fun!
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petegz28 05:49 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Okay pete :-)

I'll let you rage on shitbird mountain for several more pages. Have fun!
Thanks! :-)
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chiefzilla1501 06:20 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Not sure how true but makes for a good read anyway..


OPIED FROM AN OSHA CERTIFIED GENTLEMAN:
For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid ����*♀️). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.
So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).
• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”
• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.
-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense....
P.S. I am also OSHA 10,30 certified and have my MSHA. I also currently work at a mine where we do training on this subject regularly.
This has been mostly debunked. Including by osha.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/3266817001/
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Chief Roundup 06:31 PM 06-30-2020
Found out today that two students that were given tours of the college I work at have tested positive for Covid. We are not isolating but we have to take every precaution when we are out in public.
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petegz28 06:39 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
This has been mostly debunked. Including by osha.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/3266817001/
Says their findings are partly false. Which means the claims are also partly true. I am not going to argue whether wearing a mask helps or not but I will argue that it is not the holy grail that means you can do whatever you want as long as you wear a mask.
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tk13 06:45 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Says their findings are partly false. Which means the claims are also partly true. I am not going to argue whether wearing a mask helps or not but I will argue that it is not the holy grail that means you can do whatever you want as long as you wear a mask.
Literally no one who is legit has recommended that if you wear a mask you can do whatever you want. That is literally the opposite of the recommendation.
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petegz28 06:48 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by tk13:
Literally no one who is legit has recommended that if you wear a mask you can do whatever you want. That is literally the opposite of the recommendation.
Meh, you are seeing a lot of people behave in ways they shouldn't just because they have on a mask. This is something a lot of experts warned against. Like lack of social distancing.
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petegz28 06:56 PM 06-30-2020
So cases were up at 45k but new deaths were lower today than Tuesday last week. I hope this continues. The lower deaths that is.
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DaFace 06:57 PM 06-30-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Meh, you are seeing a lot of people behave in ways they shouldn't just because they have on a mask. This is something a lot of experts warned against. Like lack of social distancing.
You also see people without masks disregarding social distancing. Both groups are dumb, but one act is not necessarily causal to the other.
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