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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Monticore 10:40 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Yeah not so much, but nice try.

Again Texas has yet to have 3k people die of COVID-19. So yeah I think we are doing a pretty good job.

Funny considering we have been open 2 months.
What ever helps you sleep.
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BleedingRed 10:40 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- Texas saw a record number of hospitalizations over the weekend, reporting more than 3,400 on Sunday.

According to data analyzed by ABC News, Texas is reporting an increased rate of positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths from coronavirus.

ABC13 learned Monday LBJ Hospital is over capacity for ICU beds, but a spokesperson for Harris Health System says they have brought on extra staff to help with those additional patients.

Now, hospitals across the area are trying to move patients around to keep beds open as the hospitalization numbers move steeply in the wrong direction.

"You can see that steep increase in the number of patients admitted to the intensive care units that are COVID positive and, you'll note that they're quoting it's approximately a 4.1 percent daily growth in the occupancy of the ICUs," said Dr. David Persse.

Persse says the amount of COVID-19 patients who end up in ICU has increased by 1.6 times since May 31.

LBJ Hospital's ICU bed capacity is 108 percent full. Meanwhile, Ben Taub Hospital says its ICU bed capacity is 76 percent full, and Houston Methodist Hospital says they're 84 percent full
So no do analysis on how full they usual are and lets compare and contrast.

Also,

Point in case with the panic porn
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eDave 10:41 AM 06-23-2020
Is there something relating cigarette smoke to Covid? The reason I ask is that during my time at the Casino I was disciplined twice. Once for standing somewhere that used to be normal and again for lighting up a cigarette inside because they banned that too.

And why would I be disciplined for either as a bigger threat than the multitude of violations of the ordinance that are so blatant, widespread, and a far bigger threat to everyone?

None of this makes any sense!
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Dunerdr 10:41 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
You should ask Sweden how that worked for them.
Theres a swedish jeopardy episode?
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Bob Dole 10:45 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- Texas saw a record number of hospitalizations over the weekend, reporting more than 3,400 on Sunday.

According to data analyzed by ABC News, Texas is reporting an increased rate of positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths from coronavirus.

ABC13 learned Monday LBJ Hospital is over capacity for ICU beds, but a spokesperson for Harris Health System says they have brought on extra staff to help with those additional patients.

Now, hospitals across the area are trying to move patients around to keep beds open as the hospitalization numbers move steeply in the wrong direction.

"You can see that steep increase in the number of patients admitted to the intensive care units that are COVID positive and, you'll note that they're quoting it's approximately a 4.1 percent daily growth in the occupancy of the ICUs," said Dr. David Persse.

Persse says the amount of COVID-19 patients who end up in ICU has increased by 1.6 times since May 31.

LBJ Hospital's ICU bed capacity is 108 percent full. Meanwhile, Ben Taub Hospital says its ICU bed capacity is 76 percent full, and Houston Methodist Hospital says they're 84 percent full
Meanwhile my county has has 400 cases and 12 deaths. But you one size fits all champs keep beating that mitigation drum.
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DaFace 10:47 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
If I saw this person as lying, I wouldn't be posting it. I don't see them as lying, I see them making their own effort to interpret data that is publicly available. Because it's an interpretation, people can and should look at the underlying data and sources, and determine if they agree with the way he's interpreting it. I think it has been adequately presented here as one person's opinion and not more. People can believe whatever they want to believe.

Yes, there are some people who will only ever consider that which confirms what they already believe, and there are some people who will make poor choices based on poor interpretive data, but what are we really to do about that? Was that not occurring before these tweets were posted? Is it not better to have more information vs less? If people misuse what you provide, is that your fault?

If mods decide these posts are a risk to public health and want to censor them then whatever. If people want to poke holes in the data using facts, and thoughtfully discuss it all, that's what the posts are there for. Please do. I want to hear things I believe being challenged (not that I necessarily believe ES, I'm undecided on that) because if things I believe are true, the facts will eventually bear that out.

If people want to dogpile me just to be part of something, or for posting something that makes them uncomfortable, I couldn't care less about that.
At its core, the issue I have is just the feeling of anti-intellectualism that "sources" like this promote. It's like that study I posted a while back where a bunch of chemists concluded that masks were super effective. They even got it published, but when the epidemiologists took a look at it, they immediately could see all of the flaws in the chemists' thinking (even if they didn't disagree with the basic premise that masks are effective).

Same deal here. I don't know who this guy is or what his qualifications are, but he seems to be taking some very complex topics, making up his own methodologies, and presenting them as indisputable fact.

My personal view on all of this is the same as it's been from the beginning: I trust the people who have spent decades of their lives trying to understand this stuff far more than people with no expertise and a calculator. That DOES NOT mean that the experts are infallible, but the chances that they'll be right are far higher than those with no expertise.

At some point, it's just an odds game. If you had to place money on the Chiefs or Dolphins winning the Super Bowl next year, who's your choice? This guy strikes me as the Bleacher Report blogger posting a hot take that the Dolphins will win it.
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Donger 10:47 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
So no do analysis on how full they usual are and lets compare and contrast.

Also,

Point in case with the panic porn
I would imagine that LBJ ICU normal percentage is not 107%

Do you have data to show that's incorrect?

I'm sorry if numbers and facts bother you.
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Donger 10:47 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
Meanwhile my county has has 400 cases and 12 deaths. But you one size fits all champs keep beating that mitigation drum.
How many people live in your county?
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Bob Dole 10:51 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
How many people live in your county?
About 100k. About 150k in the MSA.
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Donger 10:53 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
About 100k.
That's actually pretty high comparatively.
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Bob Dole 10:56 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
That's actually pretty high comparatively.
A relative explosion, no doubt.
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Donger 10:58 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
A relative explosion, no doubt.
Pick a favorite county if you want a comparison.
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Monticore 10:58 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
About 100k. About 150k in the MSA.
We have about 100-120k in our district and have 30(1 active) cases 1 death .I understand your reasoning but I assume like us it wouldn't take much to overwhelm our small Hospital how much damage it could do to our retirement community.
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Monticore 11:02 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
A relative explosion, no doubt.

over 10 x the cases and death compared to my district of a similar size.
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Bob Dole 11:02 AM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
We have about 100-120k in our district and have 30(1 active) cases 1 death .I understand your reasoning but I assume like us it wouldn't take much to overwhelm our small Hospital how much damage it could do to our retirement community.
We have 2 hospitals and probably 15 nursing homes. I haven’t seen how many of the 12 were residents.
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