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The Lounge>Off Season Lets Talk Guns, Part 2
HonestChieffan 11:58 AM 01-23-2011
Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?
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Chief Roundup 08:16 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Munson:
I've got some 9mm for sale real cheap.

Only 60 cents per round! :-)
147gr JHP? Good brand? .60 cents is cheaper than you can get them at any local place.
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Chief Roundup 08:19 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Thank God I'm stocked up, and also have access to guy who reloads. I haven't even bothered to try the local gun stores of late.
I have 800 rounds but I am going to go shooting with a friend this weekend.
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Frazod 08:25 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I have 800 rounds but I am going to go shooting with a friend this weekend.
I haven't shot much lately for the same reason. Want to hang on to what I've got.
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Randallflagg 08:47 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Thank God I'm stocked up, and also have access to guy who reloads. I haven't even bothered to try the local gun stores of late.


Yeah....I have a huge reserve of ammo - from .380 to .45 to 5.56 to 7.62 and 7mm Mauser.


Unfortunately, since all of my weapons were stolen....it matters not. :-)


Yard sale? (tongue in cheek)....
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Chief Roundup 08:50 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Which is why I decided to start reloading my own. Having the materials to roll 10,000+ of my own 9s allows me to go to bed with a smile on my face.
How much time does it take to do 100 rounds?
How much does it cost to make 100 rounds?
Do you feel safe loading your own?
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Megatron96 09:49 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
How much time does it take to do 100 rounds?
How much does it cost to make 100 rounds?
Do you feel safe loading your own?
Time: it depends on what machine you're using. A single-stage press might take about an hour to produce 100 rds. A turret about half an hour or less if you're very familiar with your press and the round you're producing. A progressive press is variable, but a typical entry-level progressive will probably make 100 rds every 20 minutes or so. i ran a turret for 6-7 years before transitioning to a progressive last year, so I can run slightly more than 275 rds/hr (straight-wall pistol) per hour. The progressive I'm still getting used to, but without trying very hard I can make over 300-350 rds/hr on it. Probably once I'm really used to it I'll be able to do over 400/hr.

Cost: for certain calibers you can discount the cost of brass (low-pressure rounds), which is the case for 9mm. 9mm brass can be reloaded infinitely (or close enough), so we don't count the cost of brass. Between primer, powder, and projectile, about 10 cents/rd. Or $100/1,000 rds. Of course, I bought all of my materials over the last 6-7 years so prices were lower. Right now that same round might cost 17 or 18 cents to make.

Safety: After you've loaded a few thousand rounds you get comfortable with your press, equipment, materials, and your system. Once that happens you feel pretty safe. In fact, for me (and many people I know that reload) the process is actually very relaxing. It's kind of like doing yoga or something.

As for shooting your own: The first time I pulled the trigger of one of my own rounds, I was a little nervous. But it went off just like a manufactured bullet, and now (11 years and more than 100,000 rds later) I actually have more faith in my rounds vs. manufactured, because I know exactly what's in one of my cartridges.
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Megatron96 10:00 PM 07-30-2020
So I just looked at Sportsman's Warehouse for fun, and it looks like while projectiles have gone up, primers and powder seem to be roughly the same as before the virus/riots. That probably won't be true for all that long, but for the purposes of the above cost question, probably about 13 cents/rd for 9 mm Luger target grade ammo.
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Munson 06:09 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
147gr JHP? Good brand? .60 cents is cheaper than you can get them at any local place.
115 gr FMJ Remington, Winchester, and a couple other brands.
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Chief Roundup 08:35 AM 07-31-2020
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Time: it depends on what machine you're using. A single-stage press might take about an hour to produce 100 rds. A turret about half an hour or less if you're very familiar with your press and the round you're producing. A progressive press is variable, but a typical entry-level progressive will probably make 100 rds every 20 minutes or so. i ran a turret for 6-7 years before transitioning to a progressive last year, so I can run slightly more than 275 rds/hr (straight-wall pistol) per hour. The progressive I'm still getting used to, but without trying very hard I can make over 300-350 rds/hr on it. Probably once I'm really used to it I'll be able to do over 400/hr.

Cost: for certain calibers you can discount the cost of brass low-pressure rounds), which is the case for 9mm. 9mm brass can be reloaded infinitely (or close enough), so we don't cost the cost of brass. Between primer, powder, and projectile, about 10 cents/rd. Or $100/1,000 rds. Of course, I bought all of my materials over the last 6-7 years so prices were lower. Right now that same round might cost 17 or 18 cents to make.

Safety: After you've loaded a few thousand rounds you get comfortable with your press, equipment, materials, and your system. Once that happens you feel pretty safe. In fact, for me (and many people I know that reload) the process is actually very relaxing. It's kind of like doing yoga or something.

As for shooting your own: The first time I pulled the trigger of one of my own rounds, I was a little nervous. But it went off just like a manufactured bullet, and now (11 years and more than 100,000 rds later) I actually have more faith in my rounds vs. manufactured, because I know exactly what's in one of my cartridges.
Thanks for the in depth break down.
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Megatron96 03:54 PM 08-01-2020
For anyone thinking about learning to reload, here's a list of the equipment you'll need.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=230171

Note: case lube is not necessary for making pistol rounds. Case trimmers aren't either. That's rifle stuff.

Your bench should be larger than you think you need, and very sturdy/heavy. there's some torque involved when either de-capping/resizing or seating bullets, and you don't want a work bench that will flex or even lift while you're working. As for brands, I don't know. I built both of mine (most of us do). But I can try to find out if anyone's interested.
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GloryDayz 12:53 PM 08-02-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Holy Shit SGAmmo is out of 9mm rounds.
We went to zero a friend's AR this morning (because mine was lost in that boating accident), and we shot a total to 16 rounds. Why? Because....

And no shit about what's out of stock. Hell, thank God the hunting rifles were lost too, 30-06 and .243 are fucking spendy as hell and you can't buy less than 200 rounds at SGAMMO.

I'd say I might get into reloading, but I'm sure those supplies will be gone soon too.
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Otter 01:22 PM 08-02-2020

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Easy 6 01:23 PM 08-02-2020
:-) wtf? ^
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stumppy 01:25 PM 08-02-2020
Originally Posted by Otter:
:-)

I'd like to return this gun. Every time I buckle my belt it fires.
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Frazod 02:05 PM 08-02-2020
Originally Posted by Otter:

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