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tatorhog 02:14 PM 02-24-2020
Does anybody have this? My doc is telling me I have it, and I need to go get a sleep study done. Apparently my spo2 number takes a LOT of dips with some pretty severe ones mixed in. So I thought I would ask here to see if anybody has this and if they have any advice or insight. He told me to anticipate a CPAP after I see the pulmonologist, but that's still a ways off before I can get in there.

I tried antifreeze, but that just turned my tongue a greenish color.
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Abba-Dabba 02:13 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
While skinny people can absolutely have sleep apnea, the most common cause IS obesity. Being over-weight is heavily correlated with sleep apnea. I'd bet 75%+ in this thread with sleep apnea are overweight.
Absolutely agree.

If you are over weight and your physician does not stress the importance of losing weight. Find another doctor. Losing weight may not let the symptoms of sleep apnea go away for everyone, but it will more than likely lessen the symptoms of sleep apnea.

What is the worst that could come out of it any way. A person could lose some weight.
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duncan_idaho 05:26 AM 02-25-2020
I got diagnosed in 2015, after six months before we had the twins. Probably saved my life. Don’t know how I would have survived otherwise.

I was also/always a stomach sleeper before the diagnosis. Sleep specialist doc told me it was likely due to the apnea and my body finding a position that minimized it. Side sleeper now.

I do the nasal pillow. Only thing I’ve ever done. I recently purchased the lumin cleaning system, which uses UV light to sanitize. It came with an add-on called “the bullet” that makes cleaning the hose a 2-minute process done 3x a week. I’ve noticed a big difference in quality. Best thing is the sanitizing tray can be used for other things - like toothbrushes, etc. Handy to have.

I lost about five pounds in the first two months I had the CPAP. Also noticed an enormous and immediate change in my sharpness and rest when I woke up. I had gotten to the point where I would doze off after dinner everyday before I started therapy.

Can’t sleep without it now. I am about to order a new device and will be getting one that includes a battery pack, so I’m not screwed if the power goes out (like it did the night before last).
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InChiefsHeaven 07:01 AM 02-25-2020
Been on my ResMed now since 2017, and I can't imagine sleeping without it. As others have said, it takes a little getting used to, but I was good to go after 2 or 3 nights. I still to this day have odd evenings where I will take the mask off for some reason, and not really know why. But generally, I'll get 6.5 to 8 hours (depending on when I go to bed) of solid healthy sleep.

I have not bought the ozone cleaner yet, I'm still washing it in hot soapy once a week. I've not had any problems with infections or anything, but washing it by hand is a pain in the ass. I just don't want to drop 300.00 on a SoClean, though I hear it works like a dream. I'm interested in the one posted earlier from Amazon though. That's a nice price point and looks like it would work well. Anybody else use that device for cleaning CPAP?
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TNTEICHER 07:28 AM 02-25-2020
Diagnosed 11 years ago. I had real issues with the cpap mask in the beginning. I tried 4 different masks before I found one I could tolerate. Now my blood pressure is down. Headaches gone and I feel so much better.
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BWillie 08:02 AM 02-25-2020
So EVERYONE has sleep apnea? Sounds like it. Do these sleep study people have an incentive to overexagerrate and say you need one because they can sell you one or profit off of it? How does that work? Seems awful convenient.
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TNTEICHER 08:17 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
So EVERYONE has sleep apnea? Sounds like it. Do these sleep study people have an incentive to overexagerrate and say you need one because they can sell you one or profit off of it? How does that work? Seems awful convenient.
People who go to a pulmonologist have already had years of bad sleep. Nobody goes to a sleep doctor if they casually want to see if they have a problem. I would expect the percentage of people who have a sleep study to be close to 100%.
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BigRedChief 08:22 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven:
Been on my ResMed now since 2017, and I can't imagine sleeping without it. As others have said, it takes a little getting used to, but I was good to go after 2 or 3 nights. I still to this day have odd evenings where I will take the mask off for some reason, and not really know why. But generally, I'll get 6.5 to 8 hours (depending on when I go to bed) of solid healthy sleep.

I have not bought the ozone cleaner yet, I'm still washing it in hot soapy once a week. I've not had any problems with infections or anything, but washing it by hand is a pain in the ass. I just don't want to drop 300.00 on a SoClean, though I hear it works like a dream. I'm interested in the one posted earlier from Amazon though. That's a nice price point and looks like it would work well. Anybody else use that device for cleaning CPAP?
Dude, stop the hand washing, It's only a matter of time till you get a serious bug in it. See my post above. Ozone cleaners are $50 these days. I posted the link on amazon that I bought. No more pain in the ass, Just push a button.
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BigRedChief 08:32 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
So EVERYONE has sleep apnea? Sounds like it. Do these sleep study people have an incentive to overexagerrate and say you need one because they can sell you one or profit off of it? How does that work? Seems awful convenient.
Originally Posted by TNTEICHER:
People who go to a pulmonologist have already had years of bad sleep. Nobody goes to a sleep doctor if they casually want to see if they have a problem. I would expect the percentage of people who have a sleep study to be close to 100%.
Worked scoring sleep studies for 2 years. Every single person needed to be on cpap. You cant fake quitting breathing. You stop on purpose, its a totally different part of the graph spectrum. Every one quit breathing several times within an hour. Only an autonomic reaction saves you from dying. But, that reaction also takes you away from REM III sleep. Without reaching REM III you wont dream or get to that "restful" stage that you will feel the next day. The longer you stay in REM III sleep, the better you will feel the next day. Serious health issues will develop the longer you refuse to use CPAP.


There is no program where you can make money, get disability etc for sleep apnea. Get a free machine maybe. When I was working, Hospitals and Doctors are not allowed to have ownership in equipment sales.
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duncan_idaho 09:09 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Dude, stop the hand washing, It's only a matter of time till you get a serious bug in it. See my post above. Ozone cleaners are $50 these days. I posted the link on amazon that I bought. No more pain in the ass, Just push a button.

And if you’re willing to spend a bit more, the UV cleaners are amazing, too (and safer if you have small children around you)
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Gravedigger 09:16 AM 02-25-2020
My wife has it and she would be the first to tell you that it is likely attributed to weight and bad sleep habits. One thing I will say though, if she's sleeping on her sides, it's much better. If she's sleeping on her back, that's when the wind tunnel opens up.
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InChiefsHeaven 09:31 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Dude, stop the hand washing, It's only a matter of time till you get a serious bug in it. See my post above. Ozone cleaners are $50 these days. I posted the link on amazon that I bought. No more pain in the ass, Just push a button.
Heh. I ordered the one in the link you posted 5 minutes ago. Thanks by the way, it's a lot more affordable that the SoClean.
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InChiefsHeaven 09:34 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
So EVERYONE has sleep apnea? Sounds like it. Do these sleep study people have an incentive to overexagerrate and say you need one because they can sell you one or profit off of it? How does that work? Seems awful convenient.
It's like when I was a kid, few kids had braces...nowadays, you take your kid to the dentist and I guarantee you they will say they need braces...

...I don't think the CPAP thing is a scam though. I took the Sleep Study, and after 3 nights I could see on paper what the problem was, snoring, stopping breathing, shitty nights sleep and constantly tired.
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burt 09:36 AM 02-25-2020
I have done the study...go for my machine orientation March 7th. I am prepared for the acclimation time. I would like to be more alert.
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cookster50 09:52 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by seclark:
This
Plus you can even screw the old lady an extra few minutes if you crank it up to 10
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So 3 minutes total? Nice!
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tatorhog 09:59 AM 02-25-2020
Originally Posted by burt:
I have done the study...go for my machine orientation March 7th. I am prepared for the acclimation time. I would like to be more alert.
Post back here, if you don't mind, after you do the orientation. I'll be interested in hearing how its goes.
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