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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Mock 2/7
kccrow 08:23 PM 02-07-2018
Trades
QB Alex Smith to Washington for 2018 3rd round selection (78) and CB Kendall Fuller per sources.

Retirements (Else Release)
ILB Derrick Johnson
OLB Tamba Hali

If either of these guys don't hang it up, it's time for the Chiefs to finally grow a set of balls and cut them loose. Business is business. There is zero reason to keep players that don't produce well beyond their primes, and they've done that a couple years too many already.

Cuts
CB Darrelle Revis - I don't see the Chiefs picking up an 8.8 million roster bonus, especially after acquiring Kendall Fuller.
OLB Frank Zombo - Zombo has proved time and again that he's nothing but a special teams guy given that he can't get pressure on the QB.
FS Ron Parker (Designate as Post-June 1 cut) - Parker just doesn't make the plays to justify his contract. He fell to only 4 passes defensed on the season despite the Chiefs having problems at CB#2 all year.
TE Demetrius Harris - It's time for the basketball conversion experiment to end; Harris can't catch a cold.

Let Walk
DL Bennie Logan, P Dustin Colquitt, QB Tyler Bray, CB Phillip Gaines, OL Jordan Devey, DB Steven Terrell, WR De'Anthony Thomas, OL Zach Fulton, CB Kenneth Acker, ILB Ramik Wilson, CB T. Mitchell, FB Anthony Sherman

Estimated Cap Space before signings: $30 m

Re-Sign
DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches - RFA Original Round Tender $1.91 m
ILB Terrance Smith - ERFA Tender $630 k
CB Keith Baxter - ERFA Tender $560 k
ILB Kevin Pierre-Louis - 3 y $3.60 m $1.00 m guaranteed, 2018 ~ $1.10 m
DL Jarvis Jenkins - 2 y $2.50 m $500 k guaranteed, 2018 ~ $1.30 m
WR Albert Wilson - 4 y $14.1 m $5 m guaranteed, 2018 ~ $2.30 m

Total Cost: ~$7.8 m

Free Agents:
LG Andrew Norwell (CAR) - 5 y $60.00 m $30 m guaranteed, 2018 ~$8.50 m
One of the premier guards in the NFL, Norwell should be extremely high on the wish list for the Chiefs. With a young QB, it's best to give him as much protection as possible.
DT Justin Ellis (OAK) - 4 y $16 m $4.5 m guaranteed, 2018 ~$3.50 m
Ellis has been a spot starter for Oakland up until 2017 when he assumed full-time duties where he excelled as a run plugger. The Chiefs don't need to spend $8 m per on a base NT.
QB Austin Davis (SEA) - 2 y $2.2 m, 2018 ~ $1.00 m
Davis proved to be a capable backup but nothing more. He should be had cheap.
WR Deonte Thompson (BUF) - 2 y $2.0 m, ~ 2018 ~ $1.0 m
Thompson is a vertical threat on the field while also possessing excellent quickness. He is also a very good kick returner.
DL Quinton Dial (GB) - 1 y $790 k
Dial was an A quality NT in San Francisco when he started there for 1 season, but he has otherwise been misused. He received only spot duty on his 1-year deal in GB so he should be a cheap pick-up as a rotational player for an odd front.
TE Crockett Gillmore (BAL) - 1 y $790 k + incentives
Gilmore hasn't been able to stay healthy the past two seasons else he probably would have seen an increased role in Baltimore. When he's on the field, he's been solid. He could come fairly cheap on a 1-year prove-it deal.
OLB Jeremiah Attaochu (LAC) - 1 y $790 k + incentives
Attaochu looked like the real deal in 2015 but since then, much like Gillmore above, has been too often injured. He could also be cheap on a 1-year prove-it deal with incentives.

Total Cost: ~$ 16.4 m

Estimated Cap Space after signings: ~$5.8 M


Draft (7th round #s may be incorrect):
2 (54) - ILB Josey Jewell - Iowa (6'1" 236)
3 (78 f/WAS) - OLB Jeff Holland - Auburn (6'1" 249)
3 (86) - FS Armani Watts - Texas A&M (5'11" 191)
4 (124) - DE Andrew Brown - Virginia (6'4" 294)
5 (175* c/ Foles) - CB Taron Johnson - Weber State (5'11" 190)
6 (199) - QB Kurt Benkert - Virginia (6'3" 214)
7 (233 f/ ARZ) - TE Ben Johnson - Kansas (6'5" 245)
7 (235 f/ SEA) - FB Garrett Dickerson - Northwestern (6'2" 248)
7 (243 f/ TEN) - P Corey Bojorquez - New Mexico (6'0" 200)
*Estimate

QB: P. Mahomes, A. Davis, K. Benkert
RB: K. Hunt, S. Ware, C. West
FB: G. Dickerson
TE: T. Kelce, C. Gillmore, B. Johnson
WR: T. Hill, C. Conley, D. Robinson, A. Wilson, J. Chesson, D. Thompson
OL: E. Fisher, A. Norwell , M. Morse, L. Duvernay-Tardif, M. Schwartz, B. Witzman, C. Erving, P. Ehinger
DE: C. Jones, A. Bailey, J. Jenkins, R. Nunez-Roches, A. Brown
NT: J. Ellis, Q. Dial
OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, J. Holland, T. Kpassagnon, J. Attaochu, D. Nicolas
ILB: J. Jewell, R. Ragland, K. Pierre-Louis, U. Eligwe, T. Smith
CB: M. Peters, K. Fuller, S. Nelson, T. Johnson, K. Baxter, A. Lampkin
DB: E. Berry, A. Watts, D. Sorensen, E. Murray, L. McQuay
ST: H. Butker, J. Winchester, C. Bojorquez
+A truckload of UDFAs and whatnot
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RunKC 09:39 AM 02-19-2018
Just watched DeShon Elliott. Dude would be an instant upgrade and immediate impact. Big dude who lays the wood and had 9 INT’s in 26 games.

Makes too much sense to draft a Safety in rd 2 right now. The value will be insane.
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:28 AM 02-19-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Just watched DeShon Elliott. Dude would be an instant upgrade and immediate impact. Big dude who lays the wood and had 9 INT’s in 26 games.

Makes too much sense to draft a Safety in rd 2 right now. The value will be insane.
I’d be great with that. Truth is, we’ve got nothing special there outside of Berry, and he can’t play forever.
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staylor26 01:12 PM 02-19-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Just watched DeShon Elliott. Dude would be an instant upgrade and immediate impact. Big dude who lays the wood and had 9 INT’s in 26 games.

Makes too much sense to draft a Safety in rd 2 right now. The value will be insane.
S:
Justin Reid
Armani Watts
DeShon Elliot

DL:
Taven Bryan
Tim Settle
Harrison Phillips

Most of those guys will probably be gone, but that should be our list of targets.
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CoMoChief 05:30 PM 02-19-2018
Just did a mock on Walkthemock.com, although a few players I tried searching for in the later rds did not show up on their rankings.

But anyways here's my latest mock from walkthemock.com for KC via Default ranking

2:22 - DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
He probably won't be there, but he fills a massive need on the DL, esp if the Chiefs cut Allen Bailey. Settle is a beast and can play both inside and outside on DL
3:14 - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
I'm all for arming Mahomes w/ as much weapons as possible. IMO Kirk is a better version of Wilson, who I think we should let walk in FA, unless he's dirt cheap.
3:22 - TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.
Harris is fuckin terrible, and this guy is a huge matchup problem for any defensive back or LB...and this guy can actually catch. This guy w/ Kelce would dominate in double TE sets.
4:22 - FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M
I dont think Watts will be there at this pick, but for the sake of this mock I selected him. I also think he's a top3 safety in a very deep safety class. Safety is an obvious need and possibly a desperate need if Berry doesn't come back full strength and either Sorensen/Parker are cut, plus EB will turn 30 this yr. Watts would immediately become the 2nd best safety on this team. Dude's a player.
6:22 - FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
I was hoping DB Siran Neal would be available at this pick but he wasn't even listed in this draft's rankings so I couldn't select him. He was a late pick in a Fanspeak.com mock draft I did. But Flowers is Sherman's replacement. Guy can run/catch out of the backfield and is more athletic than Sherman too.
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kccrow 08:34 PM 02-19-2018
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Just did a mock on Walkthemock.com, although a few players I tried searching for in the later rds did not show up on their rankings.

But anyways here's my latest mock from walkthemock.com for KC via Default ranking

2:22 - DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
He probably won't be there, but he fills a massive need on the DL, esp if the Chiefs cut Allen Bailey. Settle is a beast and can play both inside and outside on DL
3:14 - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
I'm all for arming Mahomes w/ as much weapons as possible. IMO Kirk is a better version of Wilson, who I think we should let walk in FA, unless he's dirt cheap.
3:22 - TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.
Harris is fuckin terrible, and this guy is a huge matchup problem for any defensive back or LB...and this guy can actually catch. This guy w/ Kelce would dominate in double TE sets.
4:22 - FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M
I dont think Watts will be there at this pick, but for the sake of this mock I selected him. I also think he's a top3 safety in a very deep safety class. Safety is an obvious need and possibly a desperate need if Berry doesn't come back full strength and either Sorensen/Parker are cut, plus EB will turn 30 this yr. Watts would immediately become the 2nd best safety on this team. Dude's a player.
6:22 - FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
I was hoping DB Siran Neal would be available at this pick but he wasn't even listed in this draft's rankings so I couldn't select him. He was a late pick in a Fanspeak.com mock draft I did. But Flowers is Sherman's replacement. Guy can run/catch out of the backfield and is more athletic than Sherman too.
Christian Kirk is already considered a first round receiver and hes' going to blow the doors off the combine. It would take some epic dumbassery for him to be there in the 3rd.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 09:08 PM 02-19-2018
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Just did a mock on Walkthemock.com, although a few players I tried searching for in the later rds did not show up on their rankings.

But anyways here's my latest mock from walkthemock.com for KC via Default ranking

2:22 - DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
He probably won't be there, but he fills a massive need on the DL, esp if the Chiefs cut Allen Bailey. Settle is a beast and can play both inside and outside on DL
3:14 - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
I'm all for arming Mahomes w/ as much weapons as possible. IMO Kirk is a better version of Wilson, who I think we should let walk in FA, unless he's dirt cheap.
3:22 - TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.
Harris is fuckin terrible, and this guy is a huge matchup problem for any defensive back or LB...and this guy can actually catch. This guy w/ Kelce would dominate in double TE sets.
4:22 - FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M
I dont think Watts will be there at this pick, but for the sake of this mock I selected him. I also think he's a top3 safety in a very deep safety class. Safety is an obvious need and possibly a desperate need if Berry doesn't come back full strength and either Sorensen/Parker are cut, plus EB will turn 30 this yr. Watts would immediately become the 2nd best safety on this team. Dude's a player.
6:22 - FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
I was hoping DB Siran Neal would be available at this pick but he wasn't even listed in this draft's rankings so I couldn't select him. He was a late pick in a Fanspeak.com mock draft I did. But Flowers is Sherman's replacement. Guy can run/catch out of the backfield and is more athletic than Sherman too.
I like arrangement/positions of this mock. A LOT. You've addressed needs while adding another receiver to the mix.
The only thing I would sub is the TE for another O-line fatty. With Mahomes, we shouldn't have to place such a premium on the TE position, so maybe we can look for depth elsewhere? I like the addition of a FB on the tail-end of the mock as it sends a nice message that we are going to ground and pound the football. For real.
Don't know much about the players themselves, but as I said; the positions and placement are top-notch.
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CoMoChief 11:09 PM 02-19-2018
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Christian Kirk is already considered a first round receiver and hes' going to blow the doors off the combine. It would take some epic dumbassery for him to be there in the 3rd.
I doubt any of those players will be available where i chose them at...except maybe Flowers. But I don't control the mock I just select as my turn comes lol.
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MotherfuckerJones 11:20 PM 02-19-2018
I just did one on that site. Got Tim Settle, Mike Gesicki, Kyzir White, Dorance Armstrong and Jack Cichy. I’d do a backflip if this was our draft
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kccrow 05:26 PM 02-20-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
S:
Justin Reid
Armani Watts
DeShon Elliot

DL:
Taven Bryan
Tim Settle
Harrison Phillips

Most of those guys will probably be gone, but that should be our list of targets.
I like Trenton Thompson at DL as well. He's a bit of a Chris Jones type. When he's hot, he's unstoppable. You just don't get the hot 100% of the time.
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