Why couldn't we do it? Khalil Mack, the highest paid defensive player in the league right now had cap hits of $13.8 mil in yr 1 of his new deal and $11.9 mil in yr 2. Macks avg yearly salary is $23.5 mil per year.
Veach doesn't seem to like giving guys contracts past the age of 30, so I could see him doing a 5 yr $120 mil deal. That keeps Jones in KC until age 30 and we get all his prime years and don't run the risk of having to pay him a ton of money after he's 30. Him being a 2nd rounder is going to help him in negotiating.
If we structure the contract so that his cap hit is $13 mil in year 1 and $15 mil in year 2, we have him cheap when we are tight with the cap this year and then next year there should be a decent jump in the cap and we're not out $8 mil because of Eric Berrys dead money. The cap should raise significantly for the remaining 3 years of his contract and it wont burden us with trying to get other good players.
There are several factors that should allow him to become the highest paid defender in the league.
1. He is an absolute beast. I am higher on his run D than most, but no one can argue that he is not, at worst, the 2nd best pass rushing interior lineman in the league. Personally, I put him right next to Aaron Donald when it comes to pass rushing. Now someone smarter than me correct me please, but has there ever been a better pass rusher at that position than those 2? His impact in the Super Bowl will be a big bargaining chip for him during negotiations as well
2. He is only 25 years old. Veach is smart. He doesn't like giving out big money to old guys and he's not going to extend guys into the twilight of their careers and pay them tons of money. Luckily for Chris Jones he is only 25 and a 5 year deal puts him at 30 years old. Veach wants to keep guys that still have their best years ahead of him and the prime age for a DT is 28 according to PFF, so that means in theory we haven't even seen the best Chris Jones and Brett Veach isn't going to just let that walk away.
3. The new CBA. When the top paid defenders signed their deals there were only 16 regular season game and now neverything is pointing to a 17 game regular season, so contracts are going to reflect that. Prior to the news about the newest CBA coming a year early my best guess was that CJ was going to get $21.5 mil a year from the Chiefs, since Frank Clark is basically getting $21 mil a year. $21.5 mil a year breaks down to $1.34 mil per regular season game, so that extra game should pay an additional $1.34 mil a year and that alone puts CJs yearly avg to just under $23 million a year. That hasn't even taken into account the increase in the percentage of profit the players are getting.
Chris Jones is one of my favorite players on the team and is probably my favorite player on the defense. I hope we keep him even if we have to pay him more money per year than any other defender in the history of the league. My love for Chris Jones may cloud my judgement and make me irrational and I may be completely wrong in my train of thought, but I dont think signing Jones long term is detrimental to the future success of this team whatsoever. I actually believe it would be insanely stupid and detrimental to let a generational talent like Chris Jones walk because we got some draft picks for him. Chris Jones's skills are only matched by one other player at his position and those 2 may be the best pass rushers we have ever seen at d tackle and I don't think anyone else is even close. You can't replace his production and trading him is an awful idea. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
The new CBA allots a 1.5 million cap exemption per veteran player with over 4 years on KC's roster.
This, in theory, gives the Chiefs $12 mil in relief...Jones just completed year 4.
Yeah but none of that matters. Only what the rigged NFL masters want matters. So we should see Jones traded to the Raiders, Chargers or Rams, right? [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Something I know for sure is Mahomes contacted Sammy and Chris and is willing to do a Mahometown discount to keep both in KC. The part that’s taking so long is the structure of all 3 deals so there is cap flexibility in the future and finding deals that satisfy all 3.
If all 3 are reasonable, I expect all 3 deals to be announced within a week of each other.
The hang up is possibly the upcoming TV deals due to the coronavirus complicating the amount the deals are negotiated for in many ways.
I’ve pictured this happening too. I’d be interested in seeing the link you read this on please. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Assessing the Chiefs' options with Chris Jones following the Colts' trade for DeForest Buckner
By Eric Eager
George Chahrouri and I left all interior defenders off our analytics mock, and for good reason: Interior players do not provide the value play-for-play that mirrors even edge players, and coverage is more valuable than the play of both. The same applies to handing out big contracts to interior players: don’t do it.
Could not disagree more. Passrush is more important than coverage. There is a reason that top corners are not gettin over $20M AAV. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Something I know for sure is Mahomes contacted Sammy and Chris and is willing to do a Mahometown discount to keep both in KC. The part that’s taking so long is the structure of all 3 deals so there is cap flexibility in the future and finding deals that satisfy all 3.
If all 3 are reasonable, I expect all 3 deals to be announced within a week of each other.
The hang up is possibly the upcoming TV deals due to the coronavirus complicating the amount the deals are negotiated for in many ways.
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
NFL.com listed his projected contract as 5 years and $101.5 million.
Whether from the Kansas City Chiefs or a yet unknown NFL franchise, Chris Jones is expected to get over $100 million in a long-term contract extension.
The team is unknown. The timeline is unknown. However, at some point from some NFL franchise, defensive lineman Chris Jones is going to get a mammoth contract extension in the near future. The total sum of that contract, according to NFL.com’s Anthony Holzman-Escareno, is projected to be $101 million over the course of five seasons.
For now, the Kansas City Chiefs are in control of who doles out that amount to Jones. As of this moment, Jones has been given the franchise tag, which would force him to play out this coming season as if it were a one-year deal worth $16.126 million. That is, of course, a wonderful payday for anyone reading this, but Jones has reached the rarified air at the NFL’s summit—a place only a few elite athletes climb, especially non-quarterbacks, in which a defender can earn $20 million per season.
All along, Jones has stated that he wants to retire with the Chiefs and the team’s front office has stated the same thing. General manager Brett Veach has said working something out with Jones is a top priority this offseason for the Chiefs.
The downside here is that the Chiefs already have $20 million/year committed to a teammate of Jones—in fact, a fellow defensive lineman, Frank Clark. In addition, the Chiefs have major money kicking in for wide receiver Tyreek Hill, safety Tyrann Mathieu, and the looming extension for quarterback Patrick Mahomes. Is there room for yet another highly-paid superstar?
That’s why, at this point, the team is unknown as is the timeline for Jones. However he can count on raking in $100-plus million at some point from someone and it will be interesting to see if the Chiefs can be the team to work something out. [Reply]
The #Chiefs have started to get more calls on DL Chris Jones recently. He’s been up for trade for a few weeks now, but Jones is a name to watch out for soon. #NFL
Originally Posted by Redbled:
I’ve pictured this happening too. I’d be interested in seeing the link you read this on please.
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Proof?
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Something I know for sure is Mahomes contacted Sammy and Chris and is willing to do a Mahometown discount to keep both in KC. The part that’s taking so long is the structure of all 3 deals so there is cap flexibility in the future and finding deals that satisfy all 3.
If all 3 are reasonable, I expect all 3 deals to be announced within a week of each other.
The hang up is possibly the upcoming TV deals due to the coronavirus complicating the amount the deals are negotiated for in many ways.
I went digging but couldn’t find the link. I assure you it’s legit, though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief: Something I know for sure is Mahomes contacted Sammy and Chris and is willing to do a Mahometown discount to keep both in KC. The part that’s taking so long is the structure of all 3 deals so there is cap flexibility in the future and finding deals that satisfy all 3.
If all 3 are reasonable, I expect all 3 deals to be announced within a week of each other.
The hang up is possibly the upcoming TV deals due to the coronavirus complicating the amount the deals are negotiated for in many ways.
I too would love to know how you, or anyone, could know this for sure. Is your name Brittany, Pat, Jackson, Pat Sr., Randi or Leigh? Hard to imagine anyone else knowing for sure he is willing to take a discount. [Reply]
