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Nzoner's Game Room>Mellinger: Fixing The Chiefs In Five Steps
siberian khatru 02:07 PM 01-18-2018
Fixing The Chiefs In Five Steps: a self-help guide for a chronically underachieving franchise

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5. Add talent. Pretty basic, right? Sign good players, duh. But this will be Veach’s first real test in the new job. Whether through the draft or free agency, Veach should target, in order: cornerback, edge rush, defensive line, safety, backup quarterback, interior offensive line, middle linebacker and tight end. ...

Chance of adding enough: 60 percent, but this completely depends on your trust in Veach.
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4. Cuts and salary-cap management. The Chiefs can potentially save more than $20 million in cap space by cutting Hali ($8 million) and cutting or reworking deals with linebacker Derrick Johnson ($8 million in potential savings) and defensive lineman Allen Bailey ($6 million in potential savings). ...

Chance the Chiefs will clear adequate cap space: 90 percent.
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3. Replace Bob Sutton with a more creative and innovative defensive coordinator. The Chiefs ranked 28th in total defense, and dead last in Football Outsiders’ DVOA metric, this season. This is unacceptable.

They could not develop even an average pass rush despite getting a full season from Houston and having enough talent along the defensive line. You saw this with the naked eye, but the data is even more damning: according to Pro Football Focus, the Chiefs were 27th or worse in sack percentage, quarterback pressure percentage and time required to create pressure. ...

Sutton was conservative to the point of counter-production: no team ran fewer stunts on pass plays, and the Chiefs tied for the fifth-lowest blitz rate, according to PFF. ...

Chance of this actually happening — of Sutton being replaced: 40 percent.
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2. Trade Alex Smith. This should be the second-easiest roster decision of the offseason (after cutting Hali), and the most important: without it, the Chiefs are stuck, or worse. ...

Chance of Smith being traded: 95 percent.
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1. Andy Reid needs to evolve. Some of this is tied into whether Sutton indeed keeps his job, because Reid is famously loyal to his assistants. But this goes beyond tough decisions on assistants.

This is going to require Reid to get uncomfortable. ...

Chance of significantly happening: 50 percent, a tug of war between Reid’s stubborness and self-awareness.

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TimBone 11:32 PM 01-18-2018
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Yup, its one of those deals where the more intense the outside pressure... the harder Reid will double and triple down

He wont be having fans and the media telling him what to do, the stubborn prick
Has he commented at all since the day after the playoff loss? I remember that day he said it was too early to comment or make any decisions.
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Hammock Parties 11:44 PM 01-18-2018
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Clay's detractors should probably be very afraid; he's been the spearhead that cleaves the heart of incompetence and complacency right the fuck in two for several years now, and his influence is only getting stronger.

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BossChief 11:58 PM 01-18-2018
Start Mahomes.

Hope Berry returns at full strength and that his other Achilles holds up (that’s the one that was weak, even before his cancer diagnosis)

Turn Alex Smith into an impact LG, CBor Edge rusher. Trade him and use the pick for a good player at a position of need and use the money to add an impact defender. Preferably a DL that can get pressure on a 3 or 4 man rush. I’d LOVE to make a move for Suh.

Cut Hali and DJ. Love these 2, but they both have to know it’s over. Use the $ on a corner opposite Peters. The defense deserves it. Sign 1 and draft one.
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cdcox 01:04 AM 01-19-2018
Andy won't change. He'd rather fail.
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Danguardace 05:16 AM 01-19-2018
I'm not giving up on Sutton, last 2-3 years his top top 3 or 4 guys on Defense have been broken.

I say at least give him a year with Berry back and decent replacements for Hali and Johnson (or at least that money spent on defensive upgrade).
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tyreekthefreak 05:47 AM 01-19-2018
The thing about draft picks in Kansas City is ........most sit for a year or two before getting any playing time.

It's useless to say draft a CB, ILB, etc...........because they won't play for a couple years.
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farmerchief 05:59 AM 01-19-2018
Originally Posted by Danguardace:
I'm not giving up on Sutton, last 2-3 years his top top 3 or 4 guys on Defense have been broken.

I say at least give him a year with Berry back and decent replacements for Hali and Johnson (or at least that money spent on defensive upgrade).
EVERY team has injuries to key players, and its what you do with the remaining cast and how you adjust to the injuries, that seems to be the key. IMO, Sutton has done a terrible job making adjustments, especially with in game adjustments. His scheme needs to change or else he needs a top notch NEW assistant to instal some new ideas, those of which Sutton would willingly listen to and accept.
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loochy 06:18 AM 01-19-2018
Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak:
The thing about draft picks in Kansas City is ........most sit for a year or two before getting any playing time.

It's useless to say draft a CB, ILB, etc...........because they won't play for a couple years.
I know, right? Kareem Hunt and Marcus Peters and Eric Fisher and Eric Berry and Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill and Nunez Roches and DAT and Duvernay Tardif and Travis Kelce amd Dontari Poe and Justin Houston NEVER saw significant game time.
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PAChiefsGuy 06:31 AM 01-19-2018
Originally Posted by farmerchief:
EVERY team has injuries to key players, and its what you do with the remaining cast and how you adjust to the injuries, that seems to be the key. IMO, Sutton has done a terrible job making adjustments, especially with in game adjustments. His scheme needs to change or else he needs a top notch NEW assistant to instal some new ideas, those of which Sutton would willingly listen to and accept.
That's not true at all. Every team does have injuries to key players but it's usually either the offense or defense that loses a key player. Not necessarily every defense or offense by itself has key injuries. Either way injuries hurt especially on defense where the NFL has done everything in it's power to make it a high scoring league. So losing key defenders hurts a lot.

Sutton or any D-Coordinator for that matter can come up with the greatest scheme in the world but if the players can't execute it it doesn't matter. IMO Our defense, without Berry, the talent simply isn't there for it to be as good as it needs to be
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Reerun_KC 07:45 AM 01-19-2018
Originally Posted by farmerchief:
EVERY team has injuries to key players, and its what you do with the remaining cast and how you adjust to the injuries, that seems to be the key. IMO, Sutton has done a terrible job making adjustments, especially with in game adjustments. His scheme needs to change or else he needs a top notch NEW assistant to instal some new ideas, those of which Sutton would willingly listen to and accept.


Spot on! Well stated! And it seems Berry misses more than he plays
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Danguardace 08:10 AM 01-19-2018
Originally Posted by farmerchief:
EVERY team has injuries to key players, and its what you do with the remaining cast and how you adjust to the injuries, that seems to be the key. IMO, Sutton has done a terrible job making adjustments, especially with in game adjustments. His scheme needs to change or else he needs a top notch NEW assistant to instal some new ideas, those of which Sutton would willingly listen to and accept.
But the Chief have still managed to win games though and get to the play-offs.

Consistently owning Rivers and Carr. I just think people are looking for a scapegoat.
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tyton75 08:14 AM 01-19-2018
I think it would be easier for him to fire Sutton if he was sure the new DC wouldn't fire his son as DL coach.
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DRM08 08:16 AM 01-19-2018
So Terez said it’s not a 99% chance Alex gets traded. Now Mellinger says it is 95% chance. Terez seemed to believe a lot lower than that, maybe 75% or so. Tend to think Mellinger is on the right track. Chiefs have salary cap problems and trading Alex helps straighten out the salary cap troubles.
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InChiefsHeaven 08:37 AM 01-19-2018
Originally Posted by loochy:
I know, right? Kareem Hunt and Marcus Peters and Eric Fisher and Eric Berry and Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill and Nunez Roches and DAT and Duvernay Tardif and Travis Kelce amd Dontari Poe and Justin Houston NEVER saw significant game time.
:-):-)
Just what i was thinking...that was a really dumb post...
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oldman 08:45 AM 01-19-2018
Like several have said, every team seems to lose a stud, so that's really not an excuse. You can't tell me that Berry, great as he is, is the only key to winning a SB. Dropping Houston into coverage as often as Sutton did is just stupid. I can see doing it on occasion, but we're paying him to knock the QB on his butt. The thing that bothers me most is both sides of the ball have a script and if something doesn't go as planned, all is lost. No adjustments are made. Look at the playoff loss after Kelce went down. Crap, league's leading rusher and he gets less than 10 carries? WTF?? That stuff has to end.
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