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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
Chiefspants 10:55 AM 04-05-2017
Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

April OP:

Spoiler!

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SBInfinity 04:28 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Anyone else get a chuckle that Garth brought out 4 Royals onstage Sat Night and sang "Friends in Low Places"?
I wont get mad like some did with the football Giants being at the beach on their off-day but it isn't a good look for Hoz and the royals to hype the garth appearance on twitter. in KC uniforms even
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KChiefs1 04:42 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by DeepSouth:
If Ned's going "as many RHB in the line as possible", I wonder why he didn't put Bonifacio in LF instead of Gordon?

That would be too big an upgrade at once.


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Jerok 05:16 PM 05-08-2017
I just read the game 5 world series thread, from 9th inning on. Man what a time. Here's to another World Series run in the next 5 years.
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Mama Hip Rockets 06:40 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Three7s:
It was an embarrassment. These clowns would rather continue to live in the limelight than than actually work on their craft. They got spoiled.
I mean, do you expect them to just practice all night long at night after they already played a game that day?
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GloryDayz 07:51 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by thurman merman:
I mean, do you expect them to just practice all night long at night after they already played a game that day?
Not all night, but something more than the bar would be appreciated because they don't appear to give a shit.

But hey, we're up 7-2 so I'm sure Ned will say everything is fixed now, because he's the Hud of coaches.
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Dartgod 07:58 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Three7s:
It was an embarrassment. These clowns would rather continue to live in the limelight than than actually work on their craft. They got spoiled.
Originally Posted by SBInfinity:
I wont get mad like some did with the football Giants being at the beach on their off-day but it isn't a good look for Hoz and the royals to hype the garth appearance on twitter. in KC uniforms even
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Not all night, but something more than the bar would be appreciated because they don't appear to give a shit.

But hey, we're up 7-2 so I'm sure Ned will say everything is fixed now, because he's the Hud of coaches.
This line of thinking is so fucking stupid.

So you think that because they are having a bad year that they are not allowed to get out and have some fun?

You think that because they went to the Garth concert, that is positive proof that they "don't give a shit" about the game anymore?
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SBInfinity 08:29 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
This line of thinking is so ****ing stupid.

So you think that because they are having a bad year that they are not allowed to get out and have some fun?

You think that because they went to the Garth concert, that is positive proof that they "don't give a shit" about the game anymore?
I didn't say that. Just the opposite actually.
I just said it wasn't a good look to hype it on twitter.
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Dartgod 08:32 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by SBInfinity:
I didn't say that. Just the opposite actually.
I just said it wasn't a good look to hype it on twitter.
Explain your comment. Why was it not a good look? And why does them wearing their uniforms matter?
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GloryDayz 08:34 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
This line of thinking is so fucking stupid.

So you think that because they are having a bad year that they are not allowed to get out and have some fun?

You think that because they went to the Garth concert, that is positive proof that they "don't give a shit" about the game anymore?
I think I'm suggesting perhaps a little less time out, not "no" time out. Maybe even appearing to be frustrated.

I don't care about the concert, and I hope they had a good time.
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Dartgod 08:40 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
I think I'm suggesting perhaps a little less time out, not "no" time out. Maybe even appearing to be frustrated.

I don't care about the concert, and I hope they had a good time.
Again, why does it matter? It's flawed thinking.

Are they supposed to tell Garth, "I appreciate the offer buddy, but we've been slumping all season and it might look bad if we are out having a good time."?

It doesn't make sense.
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GloryDayz 09:00 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Again, why does it matter? It's flawed thinking.

Are they supposed to tell Garth, "I appreciate the offer buddy, but we've been slumping all season and it might look bad if we are out having a good time."?

It doesn't make sense.
I didn't say they have to miss the concert, hell I din't know they went, but it does make sense. Some times you have to put in some extra time to get the business back on track.
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Dartgod 09:11 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
I didn't say they have to miss the concert, hell I din't know they went, but it does make sense. Some times you have to put in some extra time to get the business back on track.
How many hours a day should they be putting in?
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Bufkin 09:13 PM 05-08-2017
Countdown to Jorge Soler's first MLB hit as a Royal continues! Meanwhile in Chicago, Wade Davis is putting up Eric Gagne numbers. 2-0, 14.1 innings, 18 strikeouts, and not a single earned run in 15 appearances. A 0.00 ERA and 7 saves.

This will go down as one of the most lopsided trades in franchise history. And holy shit that's saying a lot.
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Dartgod 09:19 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Bufkin:
Countdown to Jorge Soler's first MLB hit as a Royal continues! Meanwhile in Chicago, Wade Davis is putting up Eric Gagne numbers. 2-0, 14.1 innings, 18 strikeouts, and not a single earned run in 15 appearances. A 0.00 ERA and 7 saves.

This will go down as one of the most lopsided trades in franchise history. And holy shit that's saying a lot.
Yeah, 11 ABs into his career as a Royal is a large enough sample size to decide this. :-)

This thread is full of stupid lately.
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Why Not? 09:20 PM 05-08-2017
Originally Posted by Bufkin:
Countdown to Jorge Soler's first MLB hit as a Royal continues! Meanwhile in Chicago, Wade Davis is putting up Eric Gagne numbers. 2-0, 14.1 innings, 18 strikeouts, and not a single earned run in 15 appearances. A 0.00 ERA and 7 saves.

This will go down as one of the most lopsided trades in franchise history. And holy shit that's saying a lot.
But, was Soler at a concert recently? This is the real question
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