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Nzoner's Game Room>****OFFICIAL Bills @ Chiefs AFC CHAMPIONSHIP REVENGE FOR 1993 GAME THREAD****
Hammock Parties 12:00 AM 01-24-2021
In 1993 the Chiefs went into Buffalo and we watched helplessly as our favorite football team, the Kansas City Chiefs, dropped passes and got concussed and allowed counter trey barbarians to rape our women and pillage our BBQ establishments until nothing was left for us but a bunch of game manager bullshit for literal decades and we never got that close to the Super Bowl ever again until PATRICK FUCKING MAHOMES came to town and now he's here and now the stupid Bills are here and BABY it is time for some mother FUCKING...



THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP

THAT'S WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET BACK
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The Franchise 11:54 AM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
How lucky did we get with Spags?

Grampa Bob Werthers isn't even in the same galaxy
Want some good reading material? Go back and read that thread and look at all the people who said it was the worst hire ever.
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Hammock Parties 11:54 AM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by Lzen:
:-)

BTW, what's up with 114 Sent?
It started as 50 Sent.

I'll let you figure out the rest.
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Easy 6 11:56 AM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Want some good reading material? Go back and read that thread and look at all the people who said it was the worst hire ever.
Oh yeah, a whole lotta people RAGED on that hire
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htismaqe 11:56 AM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:


Great blocks by Pringle and Kelce on this play.
Fisher and Reiter are THIRTY yards downfield. :-)
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The Franchise 11:57 AM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Oh yeah, a whole lotta people RAGED on that hire
BleedingRed wanted Rex Ryan.

Rex.
Fucking.
Ryan.
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O.city 12:01 PM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Fisher and Reiter are THIRTY yards downfield. :-)
I was yelling "get the fuck out of the way, run".
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SupDock 01:16 PM 01-25-2021
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-reviewe...171349172.html

Sorry if q,

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Just before halftime of Sunday’s AFC Championship Game, Bills quarterback Josh Allen took the snap, rolled to his right, and threw the ball away an instant before stepping out of bounds at the 9-yard line. The officials mistakenly ruled him out of bounds. And then the NFL officiating department made a much bigger mistake.

The replay assistant buzzed down to the on-field referee, who then consulted with NFL head of officiating Al Riveron. They looked at the review and found that Allen had thrown the ball away before he stepped out of bounds. So they changed the call to an incomplete pass.

Big problem: That’s not a reviewable play. When a player in possession of the ball is ruled out of bounds, that’s the end of the play. Nothing that happens after that can be reviewed, even if there’s clear and obvious video evidence that the player didn’t actually step out of bounds.

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Sounds like grounds for being fired if this is correct

I always assumed this was reviewable. An example would be a player fumbling the ball before stepping out of bounds, but ruled that they were out of bounds before fumbling. I thought a play like that could be reversed if there was clear recovery.


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Another edit. Apparently NFL's list of cases reviews this specific situation

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The NFL's replay case book lists this specific example, when a quarterback is ruled to have stepped out of bounds before releasing the ball.

"On this type of play," the conclusion reads, "when a player is ruled out of bounds, replay cannot make it a pass (forward or backwards)."

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in the end it doesn't matter, but the fact that something was reviewed when it can't be reviewed is a big deal
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suzzer99 01:22 PM 01-25-2021
So a couple years ago vs. us, when the Pats got screwed because they were out of challenges on the OOB call that should have been a TD - that couldn't reviewed anyway?
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staylor26 01:22 PM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
BleedingRed wanted Rex Ryan.

Rex.
Fucking.
Ryan.
I’ll do you one better.

Hamas wanted John Pagano.

Yes John fucking Paganao.
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suzzer99 01:26 PM 01-25-2021

Talking about small details can get tedious but they are the difference in games/plays.
On the Chiefs monster reverse to Hardman every player is doing the small things. Cheating their stance, selling the fake, not getting penalized for a block in the back, etc ... pic.twitter.com/OwsIT3oTrX

— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) January 25, 2021

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SupDock 01:27 PM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
So a couple years ago vs. us, when the Pats got screwed because they were out of challenges on the OOB call that should have been a TD - that couldn't reviewed anyway?


My understanding is no, it's not reviewable. If the whistle blows it dead how can they give the player additional yards afterwards based on review
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SupDock 01:32 PM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by SupDock:
My understanding is no, it's not reviewable. If the whistle blows it dead how can they give the player additional yards afterwards based on review
ARTICLE 4. NON-REVIEWABLE PLAYS. The following play situations are not reviewable:
(a) Fouls, except for Article 5(g) and (j) below.
(b) Spot of the ball and runner:
(1) Runner ruled down by defensive contact or out of bounds (not involving fumbles or
the line to gain).
(2) The position of the ball not relating to first down or goal line.
(3) Whether a runner’s forward progress was stopped before he went out of bounds or
lost possession of the ball.
(4) Whether a runner gave himself up.
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Pants 01:33 PM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
So a couple years ago vs. us, when the Pats got screwed because they were out of challenges on the OOB call that should have been a TD - that couldn't reviewed anyway?
I don't think a runner stepping out of bounds is the same. Those get challenged and overturned all the time. Happened to Reek last night.
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BIG_DADDY 01:35 PM 01-25-2021
I hope the Bills never win another game after sitting out the anthem. It's bad enough that the league never misses an opportunity to politicise everything. Fuck the Bills
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suzzer99 01:37 PM 01-25-2021
Originally Posted by Pants:
I don't think a runner stepping out of bounds is the same. Those get challenged and overturned all the time. Happened to Reek last night.

this was ruled out-of-bounds on the field and the Pats are out of challenges to get it reversed

sorry, N'Keal pic.twitter.com/h6WhwVot50

— Christian D'Andrea, sim ruiner (@TrainIsland) December 9, 2019


It was the opposite - he was ruled OOB but wasn't. But the Pats were out of challenges. Maybe the end zone counts as "line to gain" here.
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