No players were disciplined by Major League Baseball in the Astros' investigation. While Mets manager Carlos Beltran was part of it, he was a player at the time and thus was not suspended.
Discipline for Red Sox manager Alex Cora is coming. It is going to be harsh, per sources.
In some games, beaning them should certainly happen. And Lord knows their 81 regular season away games should be full of boos and chants of cheating and other non-violent forms of protest. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
In some games, beaning them should certainly happen. And Lord knows their 81 regular season away games should be full of boos and chants of cheating and other non-violent forms of protest.
Everyone is thirsty for these quotes, but there's this developing idea that the 2017-19 Astros were basically the Mariners plus cheating, and it's nonsense. A very deep breath needs to be taken.
Everyone is thirsty for these quotes, but there's this developing idea that the 2017-19 Astros were basically the Mariners plus cheating, and it's nonsense. A very deep breath needs to be taken.
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
OK, who were they "plus cheating"? Clearly the latter is accurate.
Personally I'm tired of the story, they aren't a 73 win team that became a 100 win team that won a title because of this. I think this is a pervasive problem in baseball that lots of teams are doing, the Astros got busted with it, but to me it's no different than the roids. They are acting like they care when in reality they aren't doing much of anything to address it across the league as a whole.
The Astros won because they had the best pitching staff in baseball. It also becomes more laughable when Clay Bellinger hit 143 in that WS and says their rings were stolen...did cheating make you not hit the ball also?
It's just this really overdone sensationalized look at it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Personally I'm tired of the story, they aren't a 73 win team that became a 100 win team that won a title because of this. I think this is a pervasive problem in baseball that lots of teams are doing, the Astros got busted with it, but to me it's no different than the roids. They are acting like they care when in reality they aren't doing much of anything to address it across the league as a whole.
The Astros won because they had the best pitching staff in baseball. It also becomes more laughable when Clay Bellinger hit 143 in that WS and says their rings were stolen...did cheating make you not hit the ball also?
It's just this really overdone sensationalized look at it.
The Patriots are a good team without cheating too. And everyone steals nfl signs to some extent. The Astros were clearly going above and beyond to build a culture of cheating. So no, I don't think this is being overdone at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The Patriots are a good team without cheating too. And everyone steals nfl signs to some extent. The Astros were clearly going above and beyond to build a culture of cheating. So no, I don't think this is being overdone at all.
Cheating also runs much deeper in the culture of baseball than it does any other sport. I'm not even defending them in this light I'm saying the pitch fork reaction is funny to me, there are dudes in the HOF that have openly admitted they cheated constantly. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Personally I'm tired of the story, they aren't a 73 win team that became a 100 win team that won a title because of this. I think this is a pervasive problem in baseball that lots of teams are doing, the Astros got busted with it, but to me it's no different than the roids. They are acting like they care when in reality they aren't doing much of anything to address it across the league as a whole.
The Astros won because they had the best pitching staff in baseball. It also becomes more laughable when Clay Bellinger hit 143 in that WS and says their rings were stolen...did cheating make you not hit the ball also?
It's just this really overdone sensationalized look at it.
They don't beat the Yankees in the ALCS without cheating...I'll never be convinced otherwise. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kstater:
I’d be surprised if Altuve wears less than 50 balls this year.
That's not going to happen, the only guys speaking out on it are the ones who feel personally cheated...this shit is way more pervasive than they are letting out across the league. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Cheating also runs much deeper in the culture of baseball than it does any other sport. I'm not even defending them in this light I'm saying the pitch fork reaction is funny to me, there are dudes in the HOF that have openly admitted they cheated constantly.
Why not simply tell every batter exactly what pitch is coming? What could it possibly hurt? [Reply]
Martinez of the Nats said the Astros tried the whistling thing in the world series but the batters couldn't hear and they got a couple strikeouts as a result. Of course the road team won all the games, which is sweet justice against the cheating Astros. Imagine if they had won that series too. [Reply]
Hate hate hate that people blame the owner and are freaking out on him. If he didn't know, he didn't know. If he's a normal owner, he's not going to be too involved with the on the field stuff and would have no idea this is happening. To blame him and expect him to be accountable is just so 2020. Blame whoever is in charge, for everything, instead of the individual, always. [Reply]