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Titty Meat 11:21 PM 01-19-2024
Y'all want to ride with Smith for another year or give Morris a chance? Because there's probably several good to decent prospects who likely will be there when the Chiefs pick.
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kccrow 07:28 PM 03-16-2024
Originally Posted by Toad:
Was it this thread that the discussion of moving Juwaan Taylor to the left side was had?

How much of a possibility would that be? I read somewhere that he had some snaps with Jax (and U of Florida) at LT.

Wondering if this is something Andy/Heck would consider? Would allow a ton of flexibility.
Taylor has never had a snap in college or the pros at LT. I still think the idea of moving him is absolutely ridiculous but that's DJs thing haha
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Stryker 09:04 PM 03-16-2024
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
If we move Sneed for the rumored 3rd, I think we spend that 3rd moving up for Thomas Jr or an OT, have had a gut feeling about Guyton for awhile now.
YES! Sorry, I am all on board for Brian Thomas Jr. WE need an offensive weapon on the roster for awhile to go along with Rice and Kelce let alone, Brown to learn from.

I retract this. KCCROW set me straight in another thread - he probably will not be there in our range and I accept that. Thanks KCCROW
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JPH83 12:24 AM 03-17-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Taylor has never had a snap in college or the pros at LT. I still think the idea of moving him is absolutely ridiculous but that's DJs thing haha
Yeah I don't get it. He's a pretty fluid athlete but I'm not sure that means it's worth dicking him around trying to wedge him in at LT
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RunKC 12:46 PM 03-17-2024
Jordan Morgan has 32 7/8 arms, so basically 33. That’s the line for me. Wouldn’t hold that against him.
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Couch-Potato 02:29 PM 03-17-2024
I like resigning D. Smith and taking a development guy.
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Palangi 05:49 PM 03-17-2024
https://youtu.be/EeZndARgLNY?si=19MHmHIoaubwQyNl

What if the front office sees Morris as the starter? Then we are drafting for a swing out PTW is the swing
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VAChief 09:37 AM 03-18-2024
Originally Posted by Palangi:
https://youtu.be/EeZndARgLNY?si=19MHmHIoaubwQyNl

What if the front office sees Morris as the starter? Then we are drafting for a swing out PTW is the swing
Morris has to be the swing at best. The more I see of Morgan, the more I think he might be the guy we could hope for at 32. Despite the knock on his arms he has strong hands and handles the bull rush well which is something Morris can't handle. He's athletic, with good feet and should be able to handle speed rushers as well.
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VAChief 09:39 AM 03-18-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Jordan Morgan has 32 7/8 arms, so basically 33. That’s the line for me. Wouldn’t hold that against him.
We are lucky it is a deep draft at OT, he could fall to us. There are some developmental tackles who have upside, but I think this guy is at the bottom of the list of 1st rounders who you could plug and play. It scares me to death that we would even consider handing over the job to Morris.
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DJ's left nut 09:58 AM 03-18-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Taylor has never had a snap in college or the pros at LT. I still think the idea of moving him is absolutely ridiculous but that's DJs thing haha
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Yeah I don't get it. He's a pretty fluid athlete but I'm not sure that means it's worth dicking him around trying to wedge him in at LT
It was just something I was positive we'd do last season before we signed Smith.

Now it's just something I'm willing to keep an open mind on given that we appear to have a draft fairly deep with RT prospects but a little less so at LT. Guys with shorter arms or slower feet that may not be great on the left side but sure seem to have good tools for RT.

Whereas Taylor has the length, feet and athleticism to play LT.

As we often discuss at LT, there's just not a lot of guys that have the physical tools to play on an island out there. Taylor doesn't have the experience, but he does have the tools.

And there's a solid chance that the guy we're looking into picking at 32 is lacking one or more of those 'left tackle' sort of tools.

I'm just saying don't pass on a guy like Morgan because you think he's a RT long-term. Because I think you MIGHT have a solid transition candidate in Taylor who would allow us to take someone like Latham or Mims or Morgan and get strong year 1 contributions from them.
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O.city 10:28 AM 03-18-2024
I really like Morgan. Dude is very athletic.
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kccrow 02:41 PM 03-18-2024
LT Prospects
1. Joe Alt, Notre Dame
2. Olu Fashanu, Penn State
3. Troy Fautanu, Washington
4. Jordan Morgan, Arizona
5. Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
6. Kiran Amegadjie, Yale
7. Patrick Paul, Houston
8. Brandon Coleman, TCU
9. Zion Nelson, Miami
10. Walter Rouse, Oklahoma
11. Frank Crum, Wyoming

RT Prospects
1. JC Latham, Alabama
2. Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
3. Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma (maybe LT conversion)
4. Amarius Mims, Georgia (maybe LT conversion)
5. Blake Fisher, Notre Dame
6. Matt Goncalves, Pitt
7. Javon Foster, Missouri
8. Caeden Wallace, Penn State
9. Christian Jones, Texas
10. Blake Larson, Augustana (DII)

Draftable but need to move to OG/OC
1. Graham Barton, Duke
2. Dominick Puni, Kansas
3. Sataoa Laumea, Utah
4. Roger Rosengarten, Washington
5. Delmar Glaze, Maryland
6. Garret Greenfield, South Dakota State
7. Tylan Grable, UCF
8. Gottlieb Ayedze, Maryland
9. Nathan Thomas, Louisiana

Ain't good 'nuff for da Crow... UDFAs
LaDarius Henderson, Michigan
Julian Pearl, Illinois
Andrew Coker, TCU
Josiah Ezirim, Eastern Kentucky
Ethan Driskell, Marshall
Anim Dankwah, Howard
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wannaGOback 04:05 PM 03-18-2024
I think if the chiefs trade up, it’s going to for sure be for a receiver. The amount of tackles that have been traded up for in the 10-15 range isn’t many. If somehow the chiefs land in the top 10, they aren’t picking alt, they are picking Odunze. All in all though, don’t expect any trade ups. I’d be willing to lay 10:1 that if Chiefs do ACTUALLY trade up in the draft at all, it will be to secure Worthy.

I could see maybe MAYBE if somehow Fashanu drops they might reactively try to get something done. The others really aren’t worth trading up.

Another thing to consider is we are in the middle of a dynasty with the potential GOAT entering prime. Do we really want to place the responsibility on a rookie to protect his blindside? That seems really really foolish. I think it’s highly unlikely they select a OT in the first round at all.

I think they may take a guy like Kingsley later on who has massive upside. And I wouldn’t mind that at all. Not to say we don’t need help on the line because we definitely do. Mahomes one of the most hurried QBs in the NFL last year, he just played excellently and avoided sacks. I don’t know who’s on the market, but they should forget about paying sneed and allocate funds to help on the line. Keep our guy clean, esp against the emo raiders.
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kccrow 05:17 PM 03-18-2024
Veach will NEVER trade the kind of capital it would take to get into the top 10 for a fucking WR. Never. Not even in the realm of reality. Veach and Reid follow the pillar position mantra with absolution. QB, OT, DE, CB. If it isn't one of those 4 positions, forget about it because it is never going to happen, I'm 100% confident of that.

And yeah, you trust a QB to be protected by a rookie if he's good enough. Would I trust him to a guy like Mims or Guyton who doesn't have a ton of starting experience and it's all on the right side? Fuck no. Would I trust him to Fautanu or Fashanu? Yep. I'd trust him to Morgan too. You have to differentiate experienced and able day one from inexperienced with traits, much like should be done in the obsession with WRs.
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Chieftain 08:16 PM 03-18-2024
What's great about Fautanu is his versatility. He can play both LT and guard. Polenisian bloodlines. Very solid personality, smart and humble.
As draft history has shown us, great OTs can only be had in the 1st round. So if you have to swing for one, this draft is the chance to do it with the great depth at the position.
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wannaGOback 09:33 PM 03-18-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Veach will NEVER trade the kind of capital it would take to get into the top 10 for a ****ing WR. Never. Not even in the realm of reality. Veach and Reid follow the pillar position mantra with absolution. QB, OT, DE, CB. If it isn't one of those 4 positions, forget about it because it is never going to happen, I'm 100% confident of that.

And yeah, you trust a QB to be protected by a rookie if he's good enough. Would I trust him to a guy like Mims or Guyton who doesn't have a ton of starting experience and it's all on the right side? **** no. Would I trust him to Fautanu or Fashanu? Yep. I'd trust him to Morgan too. You have to differentiate experienced and able day one from inexperienced with traits, much like should be done in the obsession with WRs.
You must not of have read my post correctly or I didn’t word it well enough.
Top 10 trade not happening at all. IF it did, it would be for a WR or a DE. Never a OT.

I will bet you 1k we can escrow the money to whatever poster you want on here if they verify their identity on social media, that if we trade up it’s not for a OT. I’ll actually give you 10-1 1k max payout that if a trade up happens it’s WR vs any other position. Thoughts?
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