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The Lounge>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Marcellus 12:08 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Best bet is we slowly start opening up, don't see a spike. Keep slowly opening up and no spikes. Then you can slowly get back to normal.
If you are to believe the data, to this point Georgia has seen no spike after reopening roughly 2 weeks ago.
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Mecca 12:09 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Yes I do, but I also believe at some point you just have to say we tried and itís time to go back to normal. Iím nowhere near there, but months from now? Possibly.
And that is where there will be a huge struggle on both sides, what if your dad or kid has cancer? Or you have grandparents that are in their 80s, no one wants to feel like they are sacrificing family members.

If this thing keeps chugging a long full bore during the summer there is no good solution.
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staylor26 12:09 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Just imagine what it would have possibly been like without the mitigation efforts we've enacted.
Bullshit, if itís that bad than the mitigation efforts were futile. Thatís the only logical explanation.
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Mecca 12:10 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
If you are to believe the data, to this point Georgia has seen no spike after reopening roughly 2 weeks ago.
Sure but you can also use the Texas data that says they are seeing 1000+ increase in new cases a day since doing the same.
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Kidd Lex 12:11 PM 05-11-2020
The table showing odds ratio of COVID positivity in their patient population on the basis of blood type is as follows. COVID still happens in all blood types, but there do appear to be modest-but-real effects of blood type on risk.



https://twitter.com/vitamin_kt/statu...760814080?s=21
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Marcellus 12:11 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Bullshit, if itís that bad than the mitigation efforts were futile. Thatís the only logical explanation.
If you look at whats happening in nursing homes still, with mitigation, you have to wonder what the real impact has been.
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Donger 12:11 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Bullshit, if itís that bad than the mitigation efforts were futile. Thatís the only logical explanation.
Actually, the models showed 1 to 2.2 million dead without any mitigation. They showed 100 to 240,000 dead with the mitigation efforts.

It's very odd to argue that the mitigation efforts have had no effect.
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staylor26 12:12 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
And that is where there will be a huge struggle on both sides, what if your dad or kid has cancer? Or you have grandparents that are in their 80s, no one wants to feel like they are sacrificing family members.

If this thing keeps chugging a long full bore during the summer there is no good solution.
I have 2 grandmothers that I have to worry about, but even they would tell you if this shit hasn’t worked months from now, it’s time to try to go back to normal.

A lot of elderly people I’ve spoken to don’t want to see their (great) grandchildren lose a huge chunk of their childhood and the economy be completely fucked just to possibly save them.
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Ebolapox 12:12 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Cuban is a ****ing pussy that would clearly have everybody hide inside until we get a vaccine.

Iím sorry, but anybody that believes that can go **** themselves.
wow, most billionaires are fucking pussies who get tested daily (haha joe rogan) and most of them (like 99%) are still socially distancing. The billionaires that want to end social distancing and get THE ECONOMY ROLLING (aka, sorry if this is political, want to keep the trickle up economics working. bailouts certainly gave them way more than 'we the people').

They don't care about you. They don't care about me unless I'm a billionaire too.

it's rich vs poor and guess what most of us are...
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dirk digler 12:12 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Cuban suggesting we need to have access to daily testing for everyone across the country before going back to normal is not laying it down, its being a ****ing moron.

No he is not a moron and he is talking about his employees and players. You can't have contact sports without daily testing. You know that right?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 12:13 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Bullshit, if itís that bad than the mitigation efforts were futile. Thatís the only logical explanation.
If you view prevention of the healthcare system collapsing from surge and 1-2 million excess deaths as futile...
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Marcellus 12:13 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Sure but you can also use the Texas data that says they are seeing 1000+ increase in new cases a day since doing the same.
According to this the trend looks more or less the same as early April in Texas.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/
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TLO 12:13 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Best bet is we slowly start opening up, don't see a spike. Keep slowly opening up and no spikes. Then you can slowly get back to normal.
I've been keeping a very close eye right here at home in Buchanan County since we opened up right as we had a boat load of people test positive down at Triumph. Our daily numbers haven't necessarily "spiked". We are having a few people test positive each day. Our number of hospitalizations has gone from 2 to 10 over the past couple weeks.

Is this a result of the Triumph outbreak? Is it a result of more testing? I can't wrap my mind around it.
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staylor26 12:15 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Actually, the models showed 1 to 2.2 million dead without any mitigation. They showed 100 to 240,000 dead with the mitigation efforts.

It's very odd to argue that the mitigation efforts have had no effect.
I’m not arguing that. We’re clearly talking about the hypothetical of things not getting any better for months.

Of course I believe it has helped, if only because it’s my hope.
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KC_Lee 12:15 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Sure but you can also use the Texas data that says they are seeing 1000+ increase in new cases a day since doing the same.
Given that the virus has a reported two week incubation period an increase in new cases a day after the state begins opening back up really is not correlated.
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