Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).
Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.
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What the Chiefs can do with their money
Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.
Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.
Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:
•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving
Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.
The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?
If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.
If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:
Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.
Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.
Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.
In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.
Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
Three 1st round picks...so they can give up #26 and a 2021 3rd round pick and still be fine.
$84 million in cap space.....so they have the money to sign Jones long term.
Jones and Christian Wilkinson would be damn good playing next to each other. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
The Dolphins are the perfect trade partner to me.
Three 1st round picks...so they can give up #26 and a 2021 3rd round pick and still be fine.
$84 million in cap space.....so they have the money to sign Jones long term.
Jones and Christian Wilkinson would be damn good playing next to each other.
Yea they have to spend money and I can’t think of a better player in free agency in terms of age and positional value. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
The Dolphins are the perfect trade partner to me.
Three 1st round picks...so they can give up #26 and a 2021 3rd round pick and still be fine.
$84 million in cap space.....so they have the money to sign Jones long term.
Jones and Christian Wilkinson would be damn good playing next to each other.
Jesus Christ I'm sorry but that's just mean to Jones to have to play for the Dolphins after winning us a Super Bowl Championship. He deserves better
and I think he is worth keeping somehow because he makes our defense better but i know we can't afford him .
I'd hate for him to go to a shit team and shit organization that will just waist his talents but i also don't want play against him in the playoffs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
The Dolphins are the perfect trade partner to me.
Three 1st round picks...so they can give up #26 and a 2021 3rd round pick and still be fine.
$84 million in cap space.....so they have the money to sign Jones long term.
Jones and Christian Wilkinson would be damn good playing next to each other.
yes. And now that teams can trade compensatory picks, I think we could get both picks this year if we take their projected 3rd round compensatory pick, which is their 7th pick in the draft. Pick 26 and a late 3rd rounder this year? Yes please! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rasputin:
Jesus Christ I'm sorry but that's just mean to Jones to have to play for the Dolphins after winning us a Super Bowl Championship. He deserves better
and I think he is worth keeping somehow because he makes our defense better but i know we can't afford him .
I'd hate for him to go to a shit team and shit organization that will just waist his talents but i also don't want play against him in the playoffs.
It's business.
I'd rather see him in Miami than on the other side of Mahomes in a Super Bowl vs Seattle.
I mean its just like breaking the bank for Berry after he came back after beating cancer. He should have given the Chiefs a fucking hometown discount for all they did for him. But we paid full freight and got NOTHING to show for it. [Reply]
I'd rather see him in Miami than on the other side of Mahomes in a Super Bowl vs Seattle.
I mean its just like breaking the bank for Berry after he came back after beating cancer. He should have given the Chiefs a fucking hometown discount for all they did for him. But we paid full freight and got NOTHING to show for it.
It is business and I think he is worth the money to anchor this defense and we just have to draft and spend well in other places because it's damn hard to find a durable DT at his caliber. He is a beast but I trust in Veach in doing what's best for the Chiefs as he has Chiefs best interest at heart and we may get a fine ransom for him i can live with. [Reply]
It would have their pick 34 and 75 to make it worth it. I think they'd be more inclined to trade Jones to an NFC team, but the Colts could certainly afford to pay him.
Nutso.
Any trade package needs to start with a 1st rounder, I don't care... [Reply]
It would have their pick 34 and 75 to make it worth it. I think they'd be more inclined to trade Jones to an NFC team, but the Colts could certainly afford to pay him.
Why even post this crap? It is an article referencing another article on ESPN where their band of blowhards talk about what they think could happen based on nothing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rasputin:
Jesus Christ I'm sorry but that's just mean to Jones to have to play for the Dolphins after winning us a Super Bowl Championship. He deserves better
and I think he is worth keeping somehow because he makes our defense better but i know we can't afford him .
I'd hate for him to go to a shit team and shit organization that will just waist his talents but i also don't want play against him in the playoffs.
If you polled most people here.....you’d find that 99% of them want to keep Jones. We’re about to find out if that’s even feasible.
And sorry if I wouldn’t feel bad when Jones gets over $100 million with no state taxes in Florida. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rasputin:
Jesus Christ I'm sorry but that's just mean to Jones to have to play for the Dolphins after winning us a Super Bowl Championship. He deserves better
and I think he is worth keeping somehow because he makes our defense better but i know we can't afford him .
I'd hate for him to go to a shit team and shit organization that will just waist his talents but i also don't want play against him in the playoffs.
I agree. This is the part of the business that I kind of dislike. We have a player that balled out and helped us win a Super Bowl, and we reward him by shipping him off to a team that has no shot at the playoffs next year, probably no shot for the next two or even three years, and he may never play for a winner ever again.
Basically because of the cap, we have to pull a “here’s your hat, what’s your hurry, see ya later!” It kind of sucks all around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
Why even post this crap? It is an article referencing another article on ESPN where their band of blowhards talk about what they think could happen based on nothing.
This entire thread is a bunch of blowhards talking about what we think might happen based on nothing. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion. [Reply]