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Nzoner's Game Room>The Black QB
Ubeja Vontell 12:04 AM 09-16-2019
Look at how things are going right now...

Highest paid....Russell Wilson
MVP....Patrick Mahomes
Number one draft pick...Kyler Murray
Leading Heisman candidate....Jalen Hurts

That ability to escape the pocket, extend plays, plant that...run? pass?...seed, is where things are heading. No backer ever has to worry about Eli, Rivers, Brady, Dalton, running the football. That can't be said about those mentioned above.

Lamar Jackson is what we see at Arizona(faster than Jackson), Oklahoma, Ohio State, and all over college/HS football nowadays, that mobile QB, a guy who can scoot 30 yards, extend plays.

The first black QB's were Willie Thrower, Marlon "Magician" Briscoe, James Harris, "Jefferson Street" Joe Gillum. (can't really count Fritz Pollard) but none of them made any impact.

It started with Doug Williams, Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham, they proved that yes blacks can play NFL QB.

My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling

Today there are more black starting QB's than ever before.

Can't ignore....

DeShaun Watson
Kordell Steward
Daunte Culpepper
Jeff Blake
Rodney Peete
Vince Young
Colin Kaepernick
Lamar Jackson
Jacoby Bissett
Teddy Bridgewater
Tyrod Taylor
Andre Ware
Vince Evans
Akili Smith
Geno Smith
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kccrow 02:56 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?
I agree. I want to see some 5'1" dude out there pull some Jackie Chan flip move over an O-lineman and toss a football like a ninjitsu throwing star 40 yards downfield for a TD.

Shit, that's racist, isn't it.
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Easy 6 02:56 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by banecat:
Where's PB at? He's an expert on issues like this
Oh yeah, he is THE voice this conversation demands
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Easy 6 02:59 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by kccrow:
They were firsts. Breakthroughs into a world where African-Americans previously weren't allowed.

Talking about a "black" NFL QB now? Ridiculous. There have been hundreds. There have been great ones, good ones, average ones, shitty ones, completely incompetent busts, etc.

What now makes mention of it more redeeming? Because there are more good ones now than there has been in the past?

At what point are you satiated? When they are all black? Would that make it somehow a greater accomplishment?

I really don't understand why you're pushing on this. What's the agenda? You are devoid of any substance here other than reciting Google results of the past. Why does it matter? Perhaps that's the biggest question. And, why does it matter to you?
I asked these same questions earlier, it seems to be a black superiority issue with him
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Ubeja Vontell 03:03 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by kccrow:
They were firsts. Breakthroughs into a world where African-Americans previously weren't allowed.

Talking about a "black" NFL QB now? Ridiculous. There have been hundreds. There have been great ones, good ones, average ones, shitty ones, completely incompetent busts, etc.

What now makes mention of it more redeeming? Because there are more good ones now than there has been in the past?

At what point are you satiated? When they are all black? Would that make it somehow a greater accomplishment?

I really don't understand why you're pushing on this. What's the agenda? You are devoid of any substance here other than reciting Google results of the past. Why does it matter? Perhaps that's the biggest question. And, why does it matter to you?
Anytine 4/5% of a nations populations dominates anything it's interesting as to how is that is possible, I find it very interesting. You don't have to waste your time on it, right?

There is a thread here about Long John Silvers, being that doesn't interest me I stay out, see how it works?
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JohnnyV13 03:05 PM 02-16-2020
There actually WAS a part Asian NFL quarterback.

50 years ago, Filipino-American QB Roman Gabriel won the NFL MVP for the Rams in 1969.
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njchiefs 03:05 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
The NFL truly needs more Asian quarterbacks.

Why do they always pass on those guys in the draft?
Roman Gabriel was Filipino.
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Ubeja Vontell 03:06 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I agree. I want to see some 5'1" dude out there pull some Jackie Chan flip move over an O-lineman and toss a football like a ninjitsu throwing star 40 yards downfield for a TD.

Shit, that's racist, isn't it.



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JohnnyV13 03:08 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by njchiefs:
Roman Gabriel was Filipino.
HA! I just beat you by a hair. Course, I was probably quicker on the draw b/c I know all about Roman Gabriel since I'm also Filipino American. Knew all about him when I was a little kid.
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Perineum Ripper 03:08 PM 02-16-2020
Here is something for you to look into. Why is the percentage of black athletes falling in the MLB?


They went from13-14% to 7-8%



Anytime 4/5% of a nation’s population loses ground like that in 20 years, it’s interesting as to how/why that is possible.
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Ubeja Vontell 03:09 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
I asked these same questions earlier, it seems to be a black superiority issue with him
It's more a common sense thing actually. Samoans are huge, Filipinos are small, western Africans are fast, eastern Africans can run all day, etc.

Watching how people try tn deal with simply how things are, yep, entertaining.
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JohnnyV13 03:10 PM 02-16-2020
Personally, I think it's complete racism that there aren't any Filipino centers in the NBA.

I think I should sue. Racism has cheated me out of the chance to pursue my desired career.
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Demonpenz 03:10 PM 02-16-2020
no one cares about black qb's 234 posts into a thread
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PAChiefsGuy 03:12 PM 02-16-2020
I like how some on here are acting like racism doesn't exist and are making a joke out of it by talking about Asians.

Pretty shameful if you ask me.
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Demonpenz 03:13 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by mac459:
Here is something for you to look into. Why is the percentage of black athletes falling in the MLB?


They went from13-14% to 7-8%



Anytime 4/5% of a nation’s population loses ground like that in 20 years, it’s interesting as to how/why that is possible.
Baseball is fucking expensive and black people are poor. Black people also can't find huge open fields in urban area's. Baseball is also boring and basketball is just cheap, flows like jazz and hip hop. Baseball is like the fucking charlston
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Ubeja Vontell 03:23 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Demonpenz:
no one cares about black qb's 234 posts into a thread
Movies...

The White Tiger.......white QB at Grambling
The Jackie Robinson Story......first black in MLB
Forget the name but the story of Ernie Davis the first black Heisman winner
What was the name of that movie about Texas Western with five starting black players winning the NCAA?
Remembr the Titans.....black and white HS footballers get stuck on the same team

SI called Don Delillo's...ENDZONE....the best fiction ever written about college football. It is the story of an all white Texas College named Logos State and the schools first black football player Taft Robinson....

"but mostly he could fly, he had sprint speed, a 9.3 clocking at 100 yards, speed that black gift that thrills millions"

Something like that,
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