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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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MahomesMagic 03:03 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I think many have said that one way or the other as the numbers continue to bare that out.

For example: Here in JoCo ages 70+ are only 9% of cases but 86% of all deaths.

The other 91% of cases are 14% of deaths and that includes 0 deaths in ages 0-19.

The sad reality of this is if you are 70 or over this is a severe risk. If you are under 70 not so much particularly the younger you are.
Exactly right. I am worried that some over 70 will be too cavalier when they should be more cautious.
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sedated 03:30 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Ioannidis latest Infection Fatality Rate is .05 for everyone under 70 years old.

That should have woken everyone that was asleep but...

:-)
I've asked this 100 times but never gotten an answer...

So, yeah, its not as deadly as people thought (and I still think its mutated, because places like NY and Italy were getting ravaged early on). But what is the proposal? Completely ignore it?
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sedated 03:32 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Exactly right. I am worried that some over 70 will be too cavalier when they should be more cautious.
Here's another thing I don't get - people say that at-risk individuals should isolate, but everyone else should be free to do what they want. Does that mean at-risk people should stay isolated for a year or two while Covid continues to spread?
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petegz28 03:49 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by sedated:
Here's another thing I don't get - people say that at-risk individuals should isolate, but everyone else should be free to do what they want. Does that mean at-risk people should stay isolated for a year or two while Covid continues to spread?
What do people who are at risk from pneumonia and stuff do every year during cold and flu season?

Or are you suggesting the entire world shut down until the day Covid goes away assuming it ever does?
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MahomesMagic 03:50 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by sedated:
I've asked this 100 times but never gotten an answer...

So, yeah, its not as deadly as people thought (and I still think its mutated, because places like NY and Italy were getting ravaged early on). But what is the proposal? Completely ignore it?
I think this has been covered from the beginning. Dr. David Katz did a great job explaining how.

Of course you don't just ignore Covid. That's one extreme. The other is completely disrupt society and kill people to stop Covid..that's where we are now.

We need to protect the vulnerable and let the rest of society resume normal life.


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Monticore 04:25 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
What do people who are at risk from pneumonia and stuff do every year during cold and flu season?

Or are you suggesting the entire world shut down until the day Covid goes away assuming it ever does?
I think they get a flu shot and get their family members to get flu shots as well during flu season , to reduce the risk.

Right now the only way to reduce risk is wear a mask and a kind people where possible, and also get other people the same .
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petegz28 04:37 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
I think they get a flu shot and get their family members to get flu shots as well during flu season , to reduce the risk.



Right now the only way to reduce risk is wear a mask and a kind people where possible, and also get other people the same .
Wuht?

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Chief Roundup 04:41 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
What do people who are at risk from pneumonia and stuff do every year during cold and flu season?

Or are you suggesting the entire world shut down until the day Covid goes away assuming it ever does?
Get the pneumonia shot.
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Monticore 04:41 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Wuht?

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You asked what people are expected to do during flu season .
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Indian Chief 04:49 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by sedated:
Here's another thing I don't get - people say that at-risk individuals should isolate, but everyone else should be free to do what they want. Does that mean at-risk people should stay isolated for a year or two while Covid continues to spread?
Transplant recipients and individuals undergoing cancer treatments are just two of the many groups of people that have had to take serious precautions, long before COVID-19 showed up. We have the knowledge and the tools to protect our more vulnerable members of society.
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petegz28 07:01 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
You asked what people are expected to do during flu season .
I was referring to your incoherent rambling at the 2nd part...
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petegz28 07:02 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Get the pneumonia shot.
So they take the appropriate steps to protect themselves, right? Since there is no Covid shot to take............
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Pasta Little Brioni 07:40 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
That's what the WHO believes. Which gives us a IFR for everyone of .13..


Almost ten times lower than what the media has been pushing since March.
It definitely is that low been saying that forever. Basically under 70 and it's basically miniscule
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Pasta Little Brioni 07:42 PM 10-15-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I think this has been covered from the beginning. Dr. David Katz did a great job explaining how.

Of course you don't just ignore Covid. That's one extreme. The other is completely disrupt society and kill people to stop Covid..that's where we are now.

We need to protect the vulnerable and let the rest of society resume normal life.

Absolutely. That's been the answer pretty much all along
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petegz28 07:24 AM 10-16-2020
WHO this morning is trying to crap all over remdesivir but Gilead is arguing. I for one can say I have heard straight from the mouths of doctors that they think remdesivir works.
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