Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Here is some what positive news. Bill Gates says coronavirus shutdown could last 6-10 weeks 'if a country does a good job with testing'
Originally Posted by O.city:
And if that takes 18 months?
Two years of educational institutions operating only online if at all, no dining or drinking allowed in public places, no live sporting events and all of that on top of a ton of people without jobs. [Reply]
I guess I am lucky , small profit margin but not around people at all . As long as the cattle market comes back in nine or so months.if not it will get tight [Reply]
Originally Posted by penguinz:
So you understand how ignorant your comment was then. Good to hear.
I made my position quite clear, as I have a dozen or more times.
There are middle grounds I want to explore and pursue.
But IF the choices are between a police state and letting this virus run its course naturally - I'm taking the latter and doing so without blinking. If it means 200 million people get the disease (160 million of whom show virtually no symptoms), so be it. Is that the ideal scenario? No.
Is it better than an entire nation surrendering its personal liberties? Christ - I don't even understand why I have to answer that question. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
And if that takes 18 months?
This is what it comes down to for me. Do we need to take this absolutely seriously? Of course. But there are scenarios where you could debate if it would be better if we basically just accepted our fate and allowed otherwise healthy people to live their lives.
I'm nowhere near saying that's what we should do, but I do have trouble figuring out what the endgame is here except hiding in our homes until widespread treatments and vaccines are available, which could be a year from now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Just got a raise this morning. Apparently chiropractic offices are immune to the coronavirus. Which shocks me to be honest.
So you handing out free back rubs or what? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Two years of educational institutions operating only online if at all, no dining or drinking allowed in public places, no live sporting events and all of that on top of a ton of people without jobs.
I picked my girl up from the last day of school and I was more upset than she was.
"Go say goodbye to your friends - you won't see them for while..."
"Yes I will, daddy - I'll see them in first grade!!"
Guys, I'm really not about stealing my kids childhoods. So now my little girl's gonna do 1st grade from her couch as well?
Originally Posted by :
President Trump says he’s pushed the Food and Drug Administration to eliminate barriers to getting therapeutics for coronavirus to patients.
He said a drug currently used as an antimalarial — hydroxychloroquine — would be made available almost immediately to treat coronavirus.
"It’s been around for a long time, so we know if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody,” Trump told reporters at the White House today.
Trump said it was a common drug and would soon be available for “prescribed use” on coronavirus. He called it a “game-changer."
"We have to remove every barrier or a lot of barriers that were unnecessary and they’ve done that to get the rapid deployment of safe, effective treatments and we think we have some good answers,” Trump said.
Originally Posted by Dunit35:
My wife shredded her knee last Thursday. Her doctor canceled all appointments because she’s scared of this virus. Really, you just want my wife to walk around with crutches for an extended period of time when all she needed was a doctors note for an MRI.
Luckily urgent care got her an MRI. They won’t even let people into the building and will meet you at your vehicle to check your body temp and symptoms.
Her hospital she works at closed off all entrances except one. Same hospital hired us LEO to work security for them in the ER at $30/hr because they’re scared of out of control family members.
Sorry about your wife and hope she recovers as soon as she can under the present conditions in these times.
This isn’t the time to come down with any other health problems with this virus stuff ramping up. Everyone be careful in your daily life. [Reply]