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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 12:32 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by kgrund:
Ask New Yorkers.
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Bowser 12:33 PM 08-20-2020
I would have people understand that increased testing equals increased positives, especially in a country of our size.
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Donger 12:33 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Italy is about the same as the Northeast of the US, so I'd say our curves were about the same in that respect.

Granted, we now have the West and South and Midwest in that later area. So we're pretty much 4 Italy's
Yes, they are virtually identical.
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Donger 12:35 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Bowser:
I would have people understand that increased testing equals increased positives, especially in a country of our size.
Positives as in confirmed infections, or the positivity percentage of tests?
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Marcellus 12:39 PM 08-20-2020
That sure was a really stupid way to go about saying if the US was the size of Italy we would be past this.
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petegz28 12:45 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
That sure was a really stupid way to go about saying if the US was the size of Italy we would be past this.
:-)
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TLO 12:50 PM 08-20-2020
Missouri as a whole may be on the downswing. Number of cases per day is holding fairly steady and % positive is dropping little by little.
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Donger 12:50 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
That sure was a really stupid way to go about saying if the US was the size of Italy we would be past this.
It was actually a really good way of saying that after taking it in the ass, New York has demonstrated a successful way to drive down the R0 of this bug.

As a nation, we had a very similar plan. It just wasn't followed.
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petegz28 12:52 PM 08-20-2020
Yes, NY who still to this day has more deaths than FL, TX and CA combined has shown us all the way.......

Edit: I slightly correct myself as combined FL, TX and CA now have as any deaths as NY alone. It took 2 months but hey....
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Donger 12:56 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yes, NY who still to this day has more deaths than FL, TX and CA combined has shown us all the way.......

Edit: I slightly correct myself as combined FL, TX and CA now have as any deaths as NY alone. It took 2 months but hey....
Sure, they got hit first hard with a new virus. They suffered terrible death rates. It seems that we've figured out how to better treat this thing, and/or the virus is less lethal now. Maybe something else.

But unless you think NY reached HI in less than a month, they drove the virus down via their mitigation efforts, and phased re-opening.
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Marcellus 12:56 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yes, NY who still to this day has more deaths than FL, TX and CA combined has shown us all the way.......

Edit: I slightly correct myself as combined FL, TX and CA now have as any deaths as NY alone. It took 2 months but hey....
How can you take anyone seriously who says NY is the model example? They have over 3x the death rate per million that Italy had FFS. By that metric he should be talking about how great NJ did.
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Donger 12:57 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
How can you take anyone seriously who says NY is the model example? They have over 3x the death rate per million that Italy had FFS. By that metric he should be talking about how great NJ did.
See above. How do you explain how NY has driven down, and kept down, new cases?
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Marcellus 12:58 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
See above. How do you explain how NY has driven down, and kept down, new cases?
How do you explain 3x the death rate as Italy who got hit well before NY?
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O.city 01:00 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
It was actually a really good way of saying that after taking it in the ass, New York has demonstrated a successful way to drive down the R0 of this bug.

As a nation, we had a very similar plan. It just wasn't followed.
Why has every curve down looked the same, no matter what tools of slowing this thing down are used?
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O.city 01:01 PM 08-20-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Sure, they got hit first hard with a new virus. They suffered terrible death rates. It seems that we've figured out how to better treat this thing, and/or the virus is less lethal now. Maybe something else.

But unless you think NY reached HI in less than a month, they drove the virus down via their mitigation efforts, and phased re-opening.
What does time have to do with reaching HI?

If they were having 100k infections per day, yeah they probably got there fairly quick.
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