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The Lounge>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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RunKC 11:01 AM 09-03-2017
And Stanton would have been sacked over and over again and we would have lost more games. Our OL's were horrible in 2014 and 2015.

Our OL even got Alex hurt in 2014.
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SAUTO 11:16 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
:-) National media linking to my twitter. I'M FAMOUS BITCHES!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...to-alex-smith/
Thought you didn't want people to know your name?
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Hammock Parties 11:18 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by MODSAUTO:
Thought you didn't want people to know your name?
I don't, but not a lot I can do at this point. :-)
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BigCatDaddy 11:23 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Flachief58:
Ok, so I ask again, who was available that could have won us as many games as smith?

Hint: No one. Smith was the best option at the time to stop the bleeding
Carson Palmer.. with way more upside.
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staylor26 11:23 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
Drew Stanton.
You're senile :-)
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saphojunkie 11:48 AM 09-03-2017
Drew Stanton. Wow. That's a hot take.

I don't get this revisionist history that says Alex Smith wasn't somehow SPECTACULAR for the revitalization of this franchise. I can recognize the huge dividends we have recouped on that investment while also knowing it's time to make like Mortimer and SELL... SELL... SELL!

The Mahomes era is around the corner. Just around the corner. And Alex Smith will leave him with a team that has a clear identity, a stable regime (if we don't have double digit wins and a playoff win, who knows what could have happened on the coaching staff), and 6 nationally televised games.

The Chiefs were about to step into the NFL spotlight BEFORE drafting the sexiest deep passer known to man. The future is bright, and I hope Alex restructures and stays on as a backup or gets traded to help another limp-dick franchise have some kind of stability while looking for their franchise guy.

This is like hating on your ex-girlfriend for her flaws. No, man... have love for that psycho. She made you the man you are today, the man who was capable of finding the TRUE love of your life. Can't hate her for that. Don't hate ALEXa for fucking you up, when it led you to PaMe11a.
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thegame214 11:55 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I don't, but not a lot I can do at this point. :-)
I saw that too haha keep it up Clay. The medias already bought in.
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SAUTO 11:56 AM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I don't, but not a lot I can do at this point. :-)
Well you could stay with NOT LINKING IT YOURSELF, you stupid fuck.

I wouldn't cry much about things like that any more.
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KChiefs1 02:25 PM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
The only reason to watch this season is in hopes to be able to some day say I witnessed when "the move" was made that forever changed to course of history for the Kansas City Chiefs.

https://youtu.be/jufiGh6ZukA
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MahiMike 04:21 PM 09-03-2017
Something that really ticks me off is when people talk about how much the Chiefs gave up for Mahomes.

They didn't give up 2 1st round picks. They bettered their original pick by 17! That was way better than a simple swap. So in reality, they gave up an additional 1st and a 3rd. But the return is a pro bowler player for the next 10 years.
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Hammock Parties 04:44 PM 09-03-2017
:-)


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Discuss Thrower 05:07 PM 09-03-2017

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Hammock Parties 05:27 PM 09-03-2017
:-)
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BossChief 05:45 PM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Flachief58:
Ok, so I ask again, who was available that could have won us as many games as smith?

Hint: No one. Smith was the best option at the time to stop the bleeding
I still think Matt Moore would have done a decent job for much cheaper.

I'll always wonder if Geno would have turned out differently with a full year to sit and learn under Reid. I said at the time I thought he might take 2 years.

If they simply didn't like anyone from that 2013 draft (who could blame them, in retrospect) then going out and getting a guy like Moore and waiting a year to draft a QB, they could have gotten Derek Carr in 2014.

Reid/Dorsey's decision > mine

We've made the playoffs almost every year.
We've won a ton of games
We've won a playoff game
Swept the division

And we got Patrick Mahomes.

Let me say that again (because it's fun to say)

We got Patrick Mahomes.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 05:49 PM 09-03-2017
Originally Posted by Flachief58:
Ok, so you tell me. Who, at the time that we brought smith in, was available and in your opinion could have taken us to the promised land?
Originally Posted by milkman:
He didn't suggest that anyone could take this team to "the promised land".
He suggested that anyone could have done the same with this talent and coaching that Alex did.

And he's right.
Damn straight.

See the problem is, that the Alex apologist is thinking along the lines of "face of the franchise" QB, and that's not what I am advocating at all. The Chiefs did not need to invest in a reclamation project, hoping that it would pay Franchise QB dividends.
What the Chiefs NEEDED to do, was acquire a less "high profile" journeyman QB that everyone involved would understand was not being brought in to be a possible savior, but instead would be a qualified stop-gap to hold everything together and win some games while the scouting department did it's job looking for a REAL Franchise QB.
I seriously doubt the acquisition of Smith had any effect on the Chiefs players going in to the 2013 season in terms of, "OH SHIT, WE BALLIN' NOW"(!)-type inspiration. You have to remember who the previous QB was and realize that any of the 5 to 10 "upper scrubs" you could name would probably have been met with equal enthusiasm by the existing roster.
I further contend that NO free agent heard about Smith in KC and began rubbing their hands together in eager anticipation of a trade.
I mean fuck; come ON.
If anything, those players would have been more jacked up about playing for Reid.
In the end, the Chiefs are just very damned fortunate that the timing of the Mahomes pick came about when it did.
"Everything worked out in the end" is about the only good aspect I can take away from Smith's tenure in KC, and that is ENTIRELY based upon the acquisition of Patrick Mahomes II.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
:-)
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