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Nzoner's Game Room>The Black QB
Ubeja Vontell 12:04 AM 09-16-2019
Look at how things are going right now...

Highest paid....Russell Wilson
MVP....Patrick Mahomes
Number one draft pick...Kyler Murray
Leading Heisman candidate....Jalen Hurts

That ability to escape the pocket, extend plays, plant that...run? pass?...seed, is where things are heading. No backer ever has to worry about Eli, Rivers, Brady, Dalton, running the football. That can't be said about those mentioned above.

Lamar Jackson is what we see at Arizona(faster than Jackson), Oklahoma, Ohio State, and all over college/HS football nowadays, that mobile QB, a guy who can scoot 30 yards, extend plays.

The first black QB's were Willie Thrower, Marlon "Magician" Briscoe, James Harris, "Jefferson Street" Joe Gillum. (can't really count Fritz Pollard) but none of them made any impact.

It started with Doug Williams, Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham, they proved that yes blacks can play NFL QB.

My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling

Today there are more black starting QB's than ever before.

Can't ignore....

DeShaun Watson
Kordell Steward
Daunte Culpepper
Jeff Blake
Rodney Peete
Vince Young
Colin Kaepernick
Lamar Jackson
Jacoby Bissett
Teddy Bridgewater
Tyrod Taylor
Andre Ware
Vince Evans
Akili Smith
Geno Smith
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Easy 6 05:00 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Demonpenz:
*casey kasum voice* From hits on a quarterback to hits on the chart. Here comes the #hit from Frank Clark called 'Their asses are going home feat. Drake
Vintage penz
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LiveSteam 05:00 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Mennonite:
Did you know that Casey Kasum did the voice of Shaggy on Scooby Doo? And that the Harlem Globetrotters once made an appearance on Scooby Doo in a very special episode? And, furthermore, did you know that those very same Globetrotters are, in fact, negroes?


Jimmy the Greek was right - those people are just naturally better at solving mysteries. We just have to stop being so pc and admit it's true.
:-)
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Ubeja Vontell 05:00 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
See, this is where you lose everyone

What the hell does Charley Pride have to do with black QBs?
It should be pretty obvious.....

I was asked....who gives a ****....about race.

So when talking Charlie Pride, Ernie Davis, Jack Johnson, Hattie McDaneil, Deford Bailey, Jackie Robinson, Joe Perry, George "Little Chocolate" Dixon, Doug Wiliams, Fritz Pollard, Isacc Murphy, why do we have to read about them being black?

Remember that movie about that Texas Western basketball team starting five blacks.....A MOVIE over that. Why a movie about a white QB at Grambling?

People do care, I was obviously giving examples of how it works.
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banecat 05:01 PM 02-16-2020
All Asians is good at math. Jews is good at the basketball
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Mennonite 05:03 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell:
It should be pretty obvious.....

I was asked....who gives a ****....about race.

So when talking Charlie Pride, Ernie Davis, Jack Johnson, Hattie McDaneil, Deford Bailey, Jackie Robinson, Joe Perry, George "Little Chocolate" Dixon, Doug Wiliams, Fritz Pollard, Isacc Murphy, why do we have to read about them being black?

Remember that movie about that Texas Western basketball team starting five blacks.....A MOVIE over that. Why a movie about a white QB at Grambling?

People do care, I was obviously giving examples of how it works.




Amen, brother. I for one am sick and damn tired of hearing about George "Little Chocolate" Dixon's ethnicity. Can't we just appreciate him for that thing he's so famous for without bringing up his race?
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Ubeja Vontell 05:06 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Mennonite:
Amen, brother. I for one am sick and damn tired of hearing about George "Little Chocolate" Dixon's ethnicity. Can't we just appreciate him for that thing he's so famous for without bringing up his race?
Wiki

George Dixon (July 29, 1870 – January 6, 1908) was a Canadian professional boxer. After winning the Bantamweight title in 1892, Dixon became the first ever black athlete to win a World Championship in any sport; he was also the first Canadian-born boxing champion.

Simply how it will go.
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Ubeja Vontell 05:08 PM 02-16-2020


What got ignored by Joe Public is for years blacks were dominating sports where race limitations didn't exist like boxing and track. Black athletes from HBCU schools kicked ass on those all white SWC/SEC conference dudes at the NCAA and our Nationals. People saw it long before that Texas Western team.
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Mennonite 05:14 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell:
Wiki

George Dixon (July 29, 1870 – January 6, 1908) was a Canadian professional boxer. After winning the Bantamweight title in 1892, Dixon became the first ever black athlete to win a World Championship in any sport; he was also the first Canadian-born boxing champion.

Simply how it will go.

I'm probably gonna melt a lot of snowflakes with this opinion, but ain't it about time we shipped these Canadians back where they come from?

Canada to be specific.
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chiefzilla1501 05:15 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by Demonpenz:
Baseball is ****ing expensive and black people are poor. Black people also can't find huge open fields in urban area's. Baseball is also boring and basketball is just cheap, flows like jazz and hip hop. Baseball is like the ****ing charlston
I wasn't going to comment on this thread because it's nonsense. But this point is actually interesting. I wonder how much club sports are ruining athletic talent. Biggest example is soccer. US soccer is more interested in profiting off of soccer camps from the rich. In many poor countries, all you need in soccer is a ball and a field and these players are often the best because they often spend almost every waking hour on the sport. Thankfully i feel like football doesn't have nearly this kind of problem. Any athlete of any background can get access to good coaching.
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Mennonite 05:18 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Thankfully i feel like football doesn't have nearly this kind of problem. Any athlete of any background can get access to good coaching.

True.

Well, unless they play for the Texans, of course.
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TEX 05:18 PM 02-16-2020
Hopefully the OP gets Rompered for life this time...
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chiefzilla1501 05:19 PM 02-16-2020
The success of black QBs isn't race driven. Most of the successful qbs this year are great runners. Last year, it was the year of the pocket qb. Mahomes, Brady, goff, brees, Rodgers... All do most of their damage in the pocket. Most of these QBs had bad years this season. Huge huge drop-off. I think the problem is that defenses overadjusted to stop passing games and left their run defenses exposed. That opened things up for athletic QBs. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust this offseason to stopping lamar, 49ers run o, Derrick Henry, etc.... Have a feeling running QBs will drop-off next year.
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Ubeja Vontell 05:23 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by TEX:
Hopefully the OP gets Rompered for life this time...
You have any idea at all how many times this topic has been talked about on football, track sites? Rompered for just kicking about a topic TONS have kicked around.

You don't have ti talk about it so what's the problem?
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Ubeja Vontell 05:31 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The success of black QBs isn't race driven. Most of the successful qbs this year are great runners. Last year, it was the year of the pocket qb. Mahomes, Brady, goff, brees, Rodgers... All do most of their damage in the pocket. Most of these QBs had bad years this season. Huge huge drop-off. I think the problem is that defenses overadjusted to stop passing games and left their run defenses exposed. That opened things up for athletic QBs. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust this offseason to stopping lamar, 49ers run o, Derrick Henry, etc.... Have a feeling running QBs will drop-off next year.
Wilson
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Prescott
Newton

....have been running all their life, that isn't going to change.
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Ubeja Vontell 05:33 PM 02-16-2020
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I wasn't going to comment on this thread because it's nonsense. But this point is actually interesting. I wonder how much club sports are ruining athletic talent. Biggest example is soccer. US soccer is more interested in profiting off of soccer camps from the rich. In many poor countries, all you need in soccer is a ball and a field and these players are often the best because they often spend almost every waking hour on the sport. Thankfully i feel like football doesn't have nearly this kind of problem. Any athlete of any background can get access to good coaching.
Nonsense?
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