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Demonpenz 02:48 PM 11-14-2017
In the next year I am looking to buy a 4k TV. One that plays Xbox 1x on 4k. I don't know where exactly to start researching but I would sit post in the mean time. What I know so far is I am fine with my TV now bit I am a gamer and want the best but not stupid expensive. I know there are obstacles to getting Xbox one x to run 4k. Any advice or sarcasm is greatly appreciated. Thanks and go fuck yourself.
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Great Expectations 02:28 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Spending more than $1k on a TV in 2017 is a gigantic waste of money.

It’ll be worth $400 at this time next year.
I agree, but I️ really want an 80” 4K tv. I’ve had great experiences with vizio’s but they are around $2600 right now.
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DaneMcCloud 02:29 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by Great Expectations:
I agree, but I️ really want an 80” 4K tv. I’ve had great experiences with vizio’s but they are around $2600 right now.
What about a projector instead?
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New World Order 02:33 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by Great Expectations:
I agree, but I️ really want an 80” 4K tv. I’ve had great experiences with vizio’s but they are around $2600 right now.
80"? Wow


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New World Order 02:35 PM 11-15-2017
As of right now it looks like Sony 900e models are the best bang for your buck.
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Kidd Lex 02:43 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
:-)

This is exactly like the "Converter Wars" that exist on various Pro Audio Websites.

Guys will claim that their $2,000 Analog-to-Digital-Analog converters "blow away" a $250 dollar ADA box when in reality, the differences are generally barely perceptible to even the best trained ears.

To top that off, the $250 dollar ADA boxes sold today are infinitely better than the converters used to create some of the greatest music of all time from 1980 to around 2003.

The bottom line for me is that if I pick up a 55" 4K TV, regardless of the price, I'm going to be very happy once it's mounted on the wall while watching programs of my choice.
It’s just not Dane. I am not in the tv business, just like to watch sports and play video games. I have 4 4K TVs 65 inches or bigger, and the Oled smokes them all. I spent a fortune on the Sony XBR940E, and it can’t hold a candle to the LG Oled. It does however blow the cheap 4K tv’s I bought to round out my media room.

I can’t argue what your level of happiness would be given the difference in quality, but I can assure you there is a sizable difference in picture quality between the different 4K TVs to an average person like myself. I’d guess you haven’t spent a lot of time with true 4K HDR, but I could be wrong.
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DaneMcCloud 02:47 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis:
It’s just not Dane
Yeah, it is. :-)

I've spent plenty of time with "True 4K" TV's and there's just not a big difference between a $3k Sony and a $400 dollar TCL.
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cooper barrett 02:49 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by Miles:
$1,649.99 and includes an additional 3 year square trade warranty that’s normally $90.
Thank you,

Could you try to see what it is on the 17th?
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Kidd Lex 02:57 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Yeah, it is. :-)

I've spent plenty of time with "True 4K" TV's and there's just not a big difference between a $3k Sony and a $400 dollar TCL.
Were they HDR 4K? Cmon man, for an intelligent guy you can be exhausting. You hijack a thread where the OP asks for recommendations from people on 4K TVs, and later clarifies he’s looking for info from Xbox One X/4K owners. I fit the bill, try to add value, and you storm in with a hot take that anyone who spends more than $400 on a tv is wasting money. That may be your opinion, but it doesn’t make it fact.
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New World Order 03:01 PM 11-15-2017

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DaneMcCloud 03:03 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis:
Were they HDR 4K? Cmon man, for an intelligent guy you can be exhausting. You hijack a thread where the OP asks for recommendations from people on 4K TVs, and later clarifies he’s looking for info from Xbox One X/4K owners. I fit the bill, try to add value, and you storm in with a hot take that anyone who spends more than $400 on a tv is wasting money. That may be your opinion, but it doesn’t make it fact.
First off, this is a 'Penz thread. Who knows if he's even serious.

Secondly, people perceive things differently. My wife can't tell the difference between an 8 year old LED TV and the TCL 4K that I purchased in August to replace it.

Some broadcasts look better in 4K or HDR 4K and some things just don't. The TCL I purchased is used in our kid's playroom and 99% of the content they watch is animated. My eyes tell me that it's cleaner and clearer, as are movies streamed from VUDU but some people don't even agree with that.

The X Box One and Wii U don't look markedly different, either. Maybe a little "shinier". The bottom line is that once the TV of choice is in your home, it doesn't matter whether or not there's a new TV available that's 2% better than your current picture.

It's a rabbit hole.
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cooper barrett 03:36 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Yeah, it is. :-)

I've spent plenty of time with "True 4K" TV's and there's just not a big difference between a $3k Sony and a $400 dollar TCL.
Go read the review on your set.

This is for the C807 and it has edge backlighting which is superior to the C803 which is direct backlight. The C803 comes packaged with a simpler remote which lacks voice control and a 3.5mm jack for private listening.

Type : LED
Resolution : 4k
Refresh Rate : 60 Hz
The TCL C807 4k Roku TV is a decent LCD/LED TV with better than average build quality and design. It features a wider color gamut for vibrant HDR content and very low input lag for responsive gaming. Unfortunately, its blacks are not very uniform, and its picture quality deteriorates even at a slight angle.


TEST RESULTS
Design 9.0
Picture Quality* 7.1
Motion 6.3
Inputs 9.3
Sound Quality 6.2
Smart Features 7.9

Pros
Sturdy, nicely finished design
Roku smart platform is both simple and quick

Cons
Could be brighter for HDR *
Poor black uniformity**
Picture quality degrades at an angle***

*The TCL C Series C807 LED TV has an average picture quality. The high contrast ratio makes for a good dark room performance, with a high level of detail in dark scene. Unfortunately, the bad black uniformity and the lack of local dimming hurt the dark room performance in the end. When set in a bright room, the C807 performs better, since it can get fairly bright and deal decently with reflection and glare. The gray uniformity is average though and dirty screen effect is visible when watching sports like football. ***The very narrow viewing angle won't make it the best TV to watch sports event with all your friend since only people sitting right in front of the TV will have the best picture quality. Finally, HDR performance is ordinary since the TV can't really get brighter than in SDR and the lack of local dimming doest help even if it has a wide color gamut.

**The black uniformity is disappointing. Most of the uniformity issues are due to the visible clouding near each corner of the screen.


I't a $400 TV quite trying to sell us on the fact that a Denali is the same a Rangerover. It's not.

For "cheap" people it's an adequate set. But the TV's I mentioned earlier while more expensive are better sets.
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DaneMcCloud 03:47 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
Go read the review on your set..
First off, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Secondly, mine is 120hz.

Finally, I don't give a shit what you think. You guys are acting like a $400 dollar 4K TV is the equivalent of a Standard Definition TV when compared to models double the price.

They're not. Not even close.
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007 04:13 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
My brother picked up four 43" Roku TV's earlier this year at Best Buy. I think the were around $299.00.

Here's one on Amazon that's 4K:

https://www.amazon.com/TCL-43S403-UH.../dp/B0754LMN3K

Here's a Sharp 43" at Best Buy. 4k, $329:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sharp-4...?skuId=5746801
I've been eyeballing a tcl for around $350. Keep waiting for a sale on it. I just need a tv that will compliment gaming video on my ps4 pro. Doesn't need to be perfect but at least comparable to what a plasma does.
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DaneMcCloud 04:15 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by 007:
I've been eyeballing a tcl for around $350. Keep waiting for a sale on it. I just need a tv that will compliment gaming video on my ps4 pro. Doesn't need to be perfect but at least comparable to what a plasma does.
Maybe Black Friday?
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cooper barrett 04:30 PM 11-15-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
First off, what the **** is wrong with you?



Secondly, mine is 120hz NO! NO IT'S NOT TCL does not make any set that is 120HZ They are all 60Hz. Do I need to spell it out? OK It's like a shop vac that says it's 5.5HP. A 5HP motor weighs 30Lbs and the shop vac weighs 10Lbs. When you look at the tag it says 5.5HP peak* so it's nbot really 5.5HP Your TCL states it Has:"Motion Enhancement Technology" Motion Rate 120 but if you look closer it says "Refresh Rate 60Hz"

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Finally, I don't give a shit what you think. Obviously you do.
Instead of admitting the Costco $400 set is just a basic 4K TV, you constantly brag about your quality standards: parties where you get the best pizza, and Art's Deli,because you wouldn't feed guests common pizza....something tells me Art's is really Costco deli
:-):-):-)
You guys are acting like a $400 dollar 4K TV is the equivalent of a Standard Definition TV when compared to models double the price. You may have something there. What we are telling you that side by side what we are recommending makes your $400 set look like "shit". You keep telling us yours is so great. It's not. Not even close.
Obviously you failed the...test.
Originally Posted by :
I've spent plenty of time with "True 4K" TV's and there's just not a big difference between a $3k Sony and a $400 dollar TCL.

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