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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Hammock Parties 01:05 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Woah! a whole 3 Doctors.
:-)

Some of ya'll just determined.

Bright sunshiny day today!

:-)
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wazu 01:05 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
No one disagrees that it shows promise. You just can't roll out drugs at a massive scale until someone's tested it more scientifically.
From the video: "In the trenches, we're all using it."
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Donger 01:10 PM 03-25-2020
Ah, now I get it. Don't watch it if you want to remain politics-free:


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Mecca 01:10 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Ah, now I get it. Don't watch it if you want to remain politics-free:

This man looks like he just crawled out of a dumpster, is dumpster juice the cure?
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Monticore 01:11 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
:-)

Some of ya'll just determined.

Bright sunshiny day today!

:-)
How many Doctors do you think are currently treating these patients around the world.
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DJ's left nut 01:12 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
This has been posted before and they don't put drugs into use based on anecdotal evidence.
Of course not. It's not going to go into accepted protocol without significant testing.

Fauci mentioned it about a week ago - the issue isn't even it's initial effectiveness, its what happens if someone is exposed a 2nd time and haven't built up antibodies and suddenly this thing just BLASTS 'em.

That's why you can't go utilizing it in large numbers yet, you could take an issue that wouldn't have been a problem for a 80% of patients that get this and suddenly make it a problem for them. It's like Dr. Cox giving that dude the rabies kidney in Scrubs.

Rule #1 - do no harm. Of course doctors are wise to let this play out.

But that doesn't mean we can't accept those truths and STILL be optimistic about early results.
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BleedingRed 01:13 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
How many Doctors do you think are currently treating these patients around the world.
Uh India banned the export of the drug because..........
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Baby Lee 01:15 PM 03-25-2020

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wazu 01:15 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
How many Doctors do you think are currently treating these patients around the world.
Tell ya what, if you come down with a bad case of coronavirus you can refuse these meds until more research is done. I'll be looking for a doctor that's a little less patient than that.
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Monticore 01:16 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Uh India banned the export of the drug because..........
They have malaria there.
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Mecca 01:20 PM 03-25-2020
You know this quarantine stuff has been great for my basement, and my house in general as things are much easier to get done with all this extra time.
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FloridaMan88 01:21 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Generally, when referring to diabetes, it's referring to Type I Diabetes, which is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a choice.

Adult Onset Diabetes, commonly referred to as Type II Diabetes, can be reversed with medication, diet and exercise but it's not exactly easy, especially for older adults in their 60's, 70's and 80's, who are often limited in their mobility.
According to the CDC, 90-95% of diabetics in the US have the Type 2 version which is lifestyle-driven.
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Monticore 01:24 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
Tell ya what, if you come down with a bad case of coronavirus you can refuse these meds until more research is done. I'll be looking for a doctor that's a little less patient than that.
I'm not saying that it might not be a cure but people might be jumping the gun a little which they were accusing some of doing about the lockdowns.

You can't accuse one side of cherry picking info then do the exact same thing.
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SupDock 01:24 PM 03-25-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
According to the CDC, 90-95% of diabetics in the US have the Type 2 version which is lifestyle-driven.
There are significant genetic components and socioeconomic components of type II diabetes.

Lifestyle also plays a large role.
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SupDock 01:26 PM 03-25-2020
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2763802

Really good JAMA article on the need for randomized controlled trials of these compassionate use meds for Covid-19
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