Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
The problem is this attempted transposition of behaviors that trend towards professional or unprofessional or trend toward productive or unproductive, into inherently black or white.
It's that conflation of black and blackNESS, or white and whiteNESS, going on everywhere.
If you have a criticism of NBA standards, cite the standard and explain the problem, don't handwave it as 'forcing them to be less black.'
Black isn't a behavior, it's an irrelevant trait.
Your stance is like asserting that women have a right to 'act blonde.' Or that 'short person rage' is a culture.
I didnt turn it into that. The players and journalists did. This was after the malice in the palace incident.
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Stern instituted a dress code for players, and although they believed it had racial undertones, they complied and it's played a part in moving away from the "thug" image, even if it was more perception than reality.
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
I didnt turn it into that. The players and journalists did.
You cosigned, and reasserted it in this thread.
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
Pretty sure that was a thing. I mean even the nba had a policy in place not too long ago that pretty much told the players to be less black for their press conferences.
Then you queried if there was 'Problem?' when responded to. [Reply]
My friend was playing hockey with a black guy who happens to be married to a native women and at some point the discussion in the dressing room turned towards some of the guys complaining about how shitty their kids were and this guy who had been pretty quiet so far chimes in and says “ you think you guys have it bad , my kids are too lazy to steal” that would have killed like 30 years ago but nope nothing but crickets , I thought it was quite the zinger myself.
I think the PC thing has gone a little to far when you can laugh at a good mixed racial kids joke. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
My friend was playing hockey with a black guy who happens to be married to a native women and at some point the discussion in the dressing room turned towards some of the guys complaining about how shitty their kids were and this guy who had been pretty quiet so far chimes in and says “ you think you guys have it bad , my kids are too lazy to steal” that would have killed like 30 years ago but nope nothing but crickets , I thought it was quit the zinger myself.
I think the PC thing has gone a little to far when you can laugh at a good mixed racial kids joke.
The native flu is definitely a thing too. I grew up playing with or against the reserve , I even played in native family tournaments as a “distant” cousin but still found myself questioning my will to play some night and that was against my friends lol, the the about those Is what happens on the ice stays on the ice , the guy who was spearing me and cross checking me all game calling me a pussy is usually the first guy to shake your hand and bye you a beer a d say how well you played. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
The native flu is definitely a thing too. I grew up playing with or against the reserve , I even played in native family tournaments as a “distant” cousin but still found myself questioning my will to play some night and that was against my friends lol, the the about those Is what happens on the ice stays on the ice , the guy who was spearing me and cross checking me all game calling me a pussy is usually the first guy to shake your hand and bye you a beer a d say how well you played.
I hate fraidy-cats like I love my wife. . . I'm a good man. . . [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
You cosigned, and reasserted it in this thread.
Then you queried if there was 'Problem?' when responded to.
So you don't think the nba (David stern) thought "how do we get our players, the vast majority being black, to be less themselves to change the perception of the league"?
I thought the policy change was stupid, just like i think this 'reprogramming' is stupid. But they are similar situations.
The post i originally quoted said what if corporations said "be less black... and pull up your pants"
The nba said, wear professional clothes into the arenas and at press conferences to its mostly black work force. [Reply]
