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Washington DC and The Holy Land>The Book of Revelation - Talk 1
Chiefshrink 11:43 PM 02-17-2021
The Book of Revelation when mentioned conjures up many thoughts and feelings among many Christians and non-believers alike and often is misunderstood to be extremely confusing and how can anyone make sense of it ? And yet it is a fascinating study and when studied accurately it is quite clear and concise on almost all events with just minor debate on a few minor issues. Nothing major.

My pastor, Jeff Schwarzentraub has started this series called "The Alpha and Omega" in which he now is starting the Omega(The Book of Revelation) and I thought it would be an informative listen for all those interested in the "End Times" of which we definitely live in for sure and to make sure your soul is prepared and what will occur in the near future. Pastor Jeff is a very gifted speaker and I assure you, you will not get bored.

Enjoy!!
https://bravechurch.online/sermon/why-teach-revelation
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Randallflagg 07:41 PM 02-20-2021
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
I hear you, Brother.

Those heartbreaking wails are something that you never, ever forget. Especially when they come from guys with whom you have laughed and cried and bled. I held too many of their hands in those moments, my friend and I know that you did too. And as they begged for their Mom, I couldn't help but think about that poor Mother back home that was soon to receive the most unbearable news. And what it was going to do to her.

And then the stark reality hits you.......and you carry on, doing what you have to do.

I agree. God Bless those men. And God Bless the families that were torn apart in that forsaken jungle.

And God Bless and forgive us all.
Amen my Brother! I can't recall who (in my unit) said this, but I heard someone say "We have been through the gates of hell and marched through to the other side". Stuck to me to this day......
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Prison Bitch 08:08 PM 02-20-2021
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
Question: "What is the purpose of the thousand-year reign of Christ?"

Answer: The Millennium (also known as the Millennial Kingdom) is the 1,000-year reign of Jesus after the Tribulation and before all the people of the world are sent to either heaven or hell. Jesus will reign as king over Israel as well as all the nations of the world (Isaiah 2:4; 42:1). The world will live in peace (Isaiah 11:6–9; 32:18), Satan will be bound (Revelation 20:1–3), and, at the beginning, everyone will worship God (Isaiah 2:2–3). The purpose of the 1,000-year reign is to fulfill promises God made to the world that cannot be fulfilled while Satan is free and humans have political authority. Some of these promises, called covenants, were given specifically to Israel. Others were given to Jesus, the nations of the world, and creation. All of these will be fulfilled during Jesus’ 1,000-year reign.

The Palestinian Covenant, also called the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 30:1-10)
God has already fulfilled the personal aspects of the Abrahamic Covenant; Abraham did go to the Promised Land, he did have many descendants, and he is the forefather of many nations. Several hundred years after Abraham, Joshua led the Israelites to claim ownership of the Promised Land. But Israel has never possessed the specific boundaries that God promised in Genesis 15:18–20 and Numbers 34:1-12. Not even Solomon ruled over this particular area (1 Kings 4:21–24). Although he did reign from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates, he did not hold the area from Mount Hor to Hazarenan (Numbers 34:7–9)—into present-day Lebanon and Syria. In addition, the covenant God made with Abraham was that he and his descendants would have the land forever (Genesis 13:15; 17:8; Ezekiel 16:60). The current Israeli state may be a step in this direction, but they still do not possess the boundaries God laid out.

The Davidic Covenant (2 Samuel 7)
God’s covenant with David was that his line would never die out and that David’s heir would sit on the throne of Israel forever (2 Samuel 7:16). Biblical scholars agree that Jesus is the fulfillment of this covenant—one of the reasons His genealogy is given for both His adoptive father (Matthew 1:1–17) and His mother (Luke 3:23–38). The Jews understood this when they laid down palm branches and their cloaks as Jesus rode into Jerusalem (Matthew 21:1–17). They expected Him to be a military/political leader that would liberate them from the Romans and make Israel a great nation again. But they didn’t understand the nature of Jesus’ work at the time was for the New Covenant, not the Davidic Covenant. The 1,000-year reign will be the beginning of Jesus’ reign over Israel and the earth (Revelation 20:4, 6).

The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-34)
The work of the New Covenant—Jesus’ death and resurrection to reconcile hearts to God—has been accomplished. But we have not yet seen the complete fulfillment. Jeremiah 31:33 says, “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Ezekiel 36:28 gives more specifics: “You shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you shall be my people, and I will be your God.” Isaiah 59:20–21 explains that this covenant is possible because of the Redeemer, and the reconciliation He provides will last forever. This covenant does not mean that every Jew will be saved. But it does mean that Israel as a nation will worship their Messiah. The Old Testament prophets who spoke of this covenant, including Isaiah, Jeremiah, Hosea, and Ezekiel, all wrote that it will be fulfilled in the future. From their time on, Israel has yet to be an independent nation that worshiped its Messiah (Romans 9—11). They will be in the 1,000-year reign of Christ.

Other Promises
Those are the covenants God made with Israel that are to be fulfilled in Jesus’ 1,000-year reign, but the Bible lists other promises that will be fulfilled, too. God promised Jesus He will make His enemies a footstool, and that Jesus’ followers will worship Him freely (Psalm 110). God promised the nations of the world that they would live in peace with Jesus as their ruler (Daniel 7:11–14). And He promised creation that the curse would be lifted (Romans 8:18–23), animals and the earth would be restored to peace and prosperity (Isaiah 11:6–9; 32:13–15), and people would be freed from disease (Ezekiel 34:16). These, too, will be fulfilled during the 1,000-year reign.

The main purpose of Jesus’ 1,000-year reign is to fulfill the prophecies given to Israel and the promises made to Jesus, the nations, and the whole earth. God’s covenants were voluntary and one-sided. He promised He would bless Israel and restore the world in specific ways, and He will.


Galatians 3.29
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Easy 6 08:32 PM 02-20-2021
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
I hear you, Brother.

Those heartbreaking wails are something that you never, ever forget. Especially when they come from guys with whom you have laughed and cried and bled. I held too many of their hands in those moments, my friend and I know that you did too. And as they begged for their Mom, I couldn't help but think about that poor Mother back home that was soon to receive the most unbearable news. And what it was going to do to her.

And then the stark reality hits you.......and you carry on, doing what you have to do.

I agree. God Bless those men. And God Bless the families that were torn apart in that forsaken jungle.

And God Bless and forgive us all.
Crushing testimony, you men of that generation make my heart swell with pride
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theoldcoach 08:55 PM 02-20-2021
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
Amen my Brother! I can't recall who (in my unit) said this, but I heard someone say "We have been through the gates of hell and marched through to the other side". Stuck to me to this day......
Can’t be said much better.

There were days, many days, in that jungle and on those hills when we were as close to Hell as one can get on earth. Sometimes I wonder how any of us made it out.

By the grace of God we did.

Oorah!
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theoldcoach 09:02 PM 02-20-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Crushing testimony, you men of that generation make my heart swell with pride
Thank you for your kind words. We do appreciate it.
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Chiefshrink 09:34 AM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
I told this story before, but this seems like a good time to repeat it: Viet Nam. My Brother was in the Marines and I was in the Army. He, (my Brother) went to Nam as an atheist and came home as an atheist.

I went to Nam as a Christian and came home as a Christian.

The sad part (at least for me) was seeing my guys in fire fights getting killed - screaming for their Moms and asking God to save them. It always ripped my heart out. God bless and keep those men and their families. I've always believed that God is not a vindictive God - He forgives all.
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
I hear you, Brother.

Those heartbreaking wails are something that you never, ever forget. Especially when they come from guys with whom you have laughed and cried and bled. I held too many of their hands in those moments, my friend and I know that you did too. And as they begged for their Mom, I couldn't help but think about that poor Mother back home that was soon to receive the most unbearable news. And what it was going to do to her.

And then the stark reality hits you.......and you carry on, doing what you have to do.

I agree. God Bless those men. And God Bless the families that were torn apart in that forsaken jungle.

And God Bless and forgive us all.
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
Amen my Brother! I can't recall who (in my unit) said this, but I heard someone say "We have been through the gates of hell and marched through to the other side". Stuck to me to this day......
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
Can’t be said much better.

There were days, many days, in that jungle and on those hills when we were as close to Hell as one can get on earth. Sometimes I wonder how any of us made it out.

By the grace of God we did.

Oorah!

:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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Randallflagg 11:29 AM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
Can’t be said much better.

There were days, many days, in that jungle and on those hills when we were as close to Hell as one can get on earth. Sometimes I wonder how any of us made it out.

By the grace of God we did.

Oorah!
Indeed. I think that most of the guys in the 101st came to the conclusion that we weren't leaving those hills alive and we sort of just "gave in" to the inevitable.

Trust me, many of us "survivors" had a hard time dealing with the guilt of making it out alive. I once read a book about the "Battle of the Bulge" and many of those GIs experienced the same guilt. Why me? Took a while to come to terms with it. Some never did....
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theoldcoach 04:59 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
Indeed. I think that most of the guys in the 101st came to the conclusion that we weren't leaving those hills alive and we sort of just "gave in" to the inevitable.

Trust me, many of us "survivors" had a hard time dealing with the guilt of making it out alive. I once read a book about the "Battle of the Bulge" and many of those GIs experienced the same guilt. Why me? Took a while to come to terms with it. Some never did....
You know.......I had that same guilt. I came to grips with it after a while. That is to say that I accepted it. But I honestly have never really understood it.

I can think of several right from my own unit who were better Marines than me. Hell, better men than me........who never made it home. Yet somehow, I did.

It is by the grace of God. But as to why.......I guess I will never know. Certainly it was not because I was deserving of it.

Every time that I listen to Kris Kristofferson sing "Why Me, Lord", tears well up in my eyes. I know why that happens. But I just don't know....why me?

Semper Fi to our fallen Brothers.
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Chiefshrink 05:44 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
Indeed. I think that most of the guys in the 101st came to the conclusion that we weren't leaving those hills alive and we sort of just "gave in" to the inevitable.

Trust me, many of us "survivors" had a hard time dealing with the guilt of making it out alive. I once read a book about the "Battle of the Bulge" and many of those GIs experienced the same guilt. Why me? Took a while to come to terms with it. Some never did....
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
You know.......I had that same guilt. I came to grips with it after a while. That is to say that I accepted it. But I honestly have never really understood it.

I can think of several right from my own unit who were better Marines than me. Hell, better men than me........who never made it home. Yet somehow, I did.

It is by the grace of God. But as to why.......I guess I will never know. Certainly it was not because I was deserving of it.

Every time that I listen to Kris Kristofferson sing "Why Me, Lord", tears well up in my eyes. I know why that happens. But I just don't know....why me?

Semper Fi to our fallen Brothers.
We all have our own personal "why questions" that is for sure. This is one of my favorite verses that brings comfort to me when life gets overwhelming.

I Corinthians 13:12 - "Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.
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theoldcoach 06:01 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
We all have our own personal "why questions" that is for sure. This is one of my favorite verses that brings comfort to me when life gets overwhelming.

I Corinthians 13:12 - "Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.
Thank you Chiefshrink. Bless you.

That is one of the most beautiful promises in the Bible. I can't tell you how many times my wife has read me that passage over the years. And she seems to always know just when I need to hear it!

As you stated. We all have so many questions. And we are promised that they will someday be answered. At my age.........it won't be long now. And quite honestly I can't wait to be reunited with beloved family and friends, and the clarity that it will bring. That is the hope and promise that I cherish most of all.
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cosmo20002 08:30 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
I told this story before, but this seems like a good time to repeat it: Viet Nam. My Brother was in the Marines and I was in the Army. He, (my Brother) went to Nam as an atheist and came home as an atheist.

I went to Nam as a Christian and came home as a Christian.

The sad part (at least for me) was seeing my guys in fire fights getting killed - screaming for their Moms and asking God to save them. It always ripped my heart out. God bless and keep those men and their families. I've always believed that God is not a vindictive God - He forgives all.
The real sad part is that your "all-powerful" god sent them there to be killed in the first place.
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Prison Bitch 08:49 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
The real sad part is that your "all-powerful" god sent them there to be killed in the first place.
I think it was LBJ
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cosmo20002 09:30 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I think it was LBJ
What part of "all-powerful" do you not understand?
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Prison Bitch 09:58 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
What part of "all-powerful" do you not understand?
CIC?
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Imon Yourside 10:40 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I think it was LBJ
The all powerful government in general for sure, trying to replace GOD and freedom with government and chains never works well for the populas.
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