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The Marty Lounge>Brady received 27 PI calls in 2020
BlackOp 04:15 PM 02-11-2021
Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 27 PI calls this 2020 season, Kansas City received 4.

No other team had more than 19 (Miami/Pittsburgh) and 28 teams had less than 15.

Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 12 PI last year with Winston throwing for over 5000 yards...

Brady's Bucs received 15 more PI calls than the same team did last season...and set an NFL record.

Brady had 12 more PI calls than 28 other teams....16 more than 21 teams. He was essentially getting twice the PI calls of nearly every other franchise...and 7 times the amount as Mahomes.

25 teams had 11 or less...

Numbers dont lie...only the media about Brady's "greatness"

Chiefs were called for 2 PIs in one quarter of the SB...they only had their opponents flagged 4 times all year.
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htismaqe 11:49 PM 02-11-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
If Brady isn't close to best quarterback in NFL history, name 5 quarterbacks in NFL history better than him.
Nobody cares what you think.
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BlackOp 11:58 PM 02-11-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Nobody cares what you think.
It's REALLY important to him for Brady to be considered one of the greatest...otherwise he wouldn't have asked it.

All the Patrio-tards have their identity attached to him...everyone who has ever come here. It's like they've been cloned and reprogrammed.

They freak the **** out if you dare say a cross word about their lord and master...because if you say his career is a sham...you are inadvertently saying THEY are sham....
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htismaqe 12:01 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
It's REALLY important to him for Brady to be considered one of the greatest...otherwise he wouldn't have asked it.

All the Patrio-tards have their identity attached to him...everyone who has ever come here. It's like they've been cloned and reprogrammed.

They freak the fuck out if you dare say a cross word about their lord and master...
Yep.
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Frosty 12:43 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
And while Mike Evans is not as good as T. Hill as a receiver, the guy is no scrub. First receiver in NFL history to have 1000 yards 7 straight years. Draft position isn't always meaningful but #7 pick in the draft. His yards where down this year in part due to injury but if you watched the games this year, Teams were interfering with him blatantly quite often.

Admittedly, Evans himself sometimes pushes off himself...that is just less frequent since he normally doesn't have to.

People are really making this about Brady, when I bet a high amount of those calls went to Evans.

If Patriots had Mike Evans last year, they would have been facing off against Chiefs in AFC Championship game and wouldn't have even been playing the Titans in round 1 since the team would have had a bye.

BTW, the main reason Brady's receiver's didn't get a ton of pass interference calls his first 3 Super Bowl wins, Patriots didn't have a stud wide receiver or a truly dominant tight end until Randy Moss in 2007.

If the team doesn't have the receivers to go down the field successfully that often, they won't get the long pass interference calls.

And if the passer is inaccurate, there is less of a need to interfere.

Someone else can look at the data but I doubt there are many ultra fast receivers like T Hill getting tons of PI calls down the field. Defenders often even not in position to trip him or get their hands on him while he is running.

And someone like Gronk was a 6"6 physical freak that was willing to go deep at times so someone like him with an accurate passer like Brady throwing him the ball was going to convince linebackers/safety's that they are best off holding/pass interfering.

Chris Godwin another big physical receiver who has some speed as well.
Evans and Godwin played in 2019 with Winston throwing over 5000 yards and they only had 12 DPIs. It's pretty clear what the difference between 2019 and 2020 is and why there were more than double the DPIs in the latter (and it wasn't Gronk, who had pedestrian numbers).
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LiveSteam 01:15 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
I dated a professional model for 3 years. I have a pretty solid bead on how that industry works.

You are correct that when all you deal with is the top .05% in genetic beauty...they tend to look for models that have unique attributes. Everyone is pretty in that world.. Giselle isn't even that unique looking in comparison...there are some truly striking women out there. 5' 11" isn't unique either...

This is more about her being a witch and making nearly a half-billion on a pretty unremarkable face. There could be 10,000 girls out there being her...but SHE is the one. There is more going on there...wouldn't even be remotely surprised if she is tied in with the Mothers of Darkness.
Mothers of darkness.
That's every mother I ever dated.
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UK_Chief 01:39 AM 02-12-2021
4 DPI calls for the chiefs is unbelievable with the amount we throw the ball!
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SuperBowl4 03:02 AM 02-12-2021
BREAKING NEWS: The NFL and their refs LOVE Tom Brady!
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GloryDayz 06:20 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I try not to get too wrapped up in the officiating, but my god this is hard to ignore.



27-4. Thatís just fucking insane.



We see Kelce get mugged almost constantly. Twice in the Super Bowl he was tackled before catching the ball. For whatever reason, we arenít getting the calls.



Mahomes and Reid should be working those refs more and more. Who gives a fuck what opposing fans think? Sure itís annoying, but apparently it works.
Vigorously lobbying the officials for a call works, perhaps not right away, but it works over time. It's parts of the game within the game.

You have to lobby vigorously to draw the cameras attention and get the talking heads to discuss it on the broadcast.

Then your coach and owner need to have your back in meetings that cameras aren't allowed in. Perhaps force the topic to be discussed.

Bah, who am I kidding.
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GloryDayz 06:25 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Kelce had 2 catches that nobody really made a big deal about because he caught them but David was all over him before the ball ever got there. Should have been automatic first downs in both cases.
Wait for it... "Officiating is tough...." Or..... "There's a hold on every play bla-bla-bla...."

As I've said so many times, "officials call everything they see, but only see what they want...."
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POND_OF_RED 06:57 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
If Brady isn't close to best quarterback in NFL history, name 5 quarterbacks in NFL history better than him.
If Brady doesnít benefit from the referees can you name another QB in the history of the league that has a rule named after him? Or two for that matter when you think about the tuck rule as well. His legacy will always be overshadowed by controversial cheating scandals and ball washing referees. Heís earned all of the controversy that surrounds him. Heís the Barry Bonds of football.
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ChiefRocka 07:06 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
If Brady doesnít benefit from the referees can you name another QB in the history of the league that has a rule named after him? Or two for that matter when you think about the tuck rule as well. His legacy will always be overshadowed by controversial cheating scandals and ball washing referees. Heís earned all of the controversy that surrounds him. Heís the Barry Bonds of football.
Asterisk franchise. Cheese money to the NFL.

NFL is theater, we were Hamilton last year!
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RealSNR 07:14 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
If Brady isn't close to best quarterback in NFL history, name 5 quarterbacks in NFL history better than him.
Drew Bledsoe, for one
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2112 07:15 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
If Brady doesnít benefit from the referees can you name another QB in the history of the league that has a rule named after him? Or two for that matter when you think about the tuck rule as well. His legacy will always be overshadowed by controversial cheating scandals and ball washing referees. Heís earned all of the controversy that surrounds him. Heís the Barry Bonds of football.
The NY Jets are to blame for the beginning of this. Knocking out Bledsoe during the 2001 season and letting Brady play. and If the Jets donít beat the Raiders on the last game of the 2001 season (only to lay down for them the following week) the Raiders get the bye and home field advantage instead of the Patriots. And the Patriots wouldnít have beaten them in Oakland even if they got by their first round opponent.
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TNTEICHER 07:45 AM 02-12-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
If Brady isn't close to best quarterback in NFL history, name 5 quarterbacks in NFL history better than him.
Mahomes
Rogers
Manning
Elway
Marino (yes I said it)
Montana
Young

Brady is the most accomplished, not best.
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 07:46 AM 02-12-2021
If only there was a history of several tampering, fines & loss of draft picks
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