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Washington DC and The Holy Land>The Trump Family Post-Inauguration Prosecution Tracking Thread
banyon 04:42 PM 12-15-2020
Jurisdiction--- Category of Crime ------Likely Defendants----Current Status
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1. Federal (DOJ) - Obstruction of Justice-- Trump-- Pending review by new AG

(Mueller Probe which documented obstruction of its investigation, but held that DOJ memo stated that a stitting president couldn't be indicted)

2. Federal (DOJ)- Bribery of Foreign Officials- Trump, Giuliani—Pending Review by new AG

(Trump's solicitation of Ukrainian President Zelensky with military aid to announce investigation of his political opponent Biden)

3. Federal (DOJ)- Conspiracy to Defraud US/Interfere with Mail -- Trump, Dejoy- Pending Review by new AG

(Dejoy's documented efforts to sabotage US mail systems ahead of election with largest ever mail in vote)

4. Federal (DC District Court) -Misuse of 2016 Inauguration money- Ivanka Trump, Don Jr, Trump- Investigation Underway, Depositions taken

(Allegations that Inauguration proceeds went to benefit Trump family

5. Federal/State (NY-Manhattan) - Campaign Finance Violation/Tax Evasion- Trump, Cohen- Pending Review by New AG/In NY Grand Jury Proceedings Currently-*update 2/22/21 Trump Supreme Court appeal denied- subpoena appeals exhausted*

(Attempt to classify payoff to porn star ahead of 2016 election as "legal services" and deduction of amount from business profits)

6. State (NY- Manhattan)- Loan App Falsification- Trump, Cohen - Currently in NY Grand Jury Proceedings

(Misstatement of assets on numerous loan applications and tax forms in order to obtain loans and avoid taxes)

7. State (NY- Albany)- Fraudulent use of charitable deductions- Eric Trump, Ivanka, Trump- Currently under investigation by NY AG , Depositions taken

8. State (DC)- Insurrection/Inciting a Riot at the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021- Trump, Giuliani, Don Jr., under investigation by DC Atty Gen.

(Misuse of 7 Springs property/Taxation issues)

9. State (GA) - Solicitation to Commit Election Fraud- Donald Trump, Giuliani, under investigation by Fulton County DA

Did I miss any?

Will be updated as things progress.

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GloryDayz 07:21 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"



He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.
Yet you ran away for how long? Did you just admit something?
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mlyonsd 07:25 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"

He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.
So, SHOES? :-) You made my day rodeo.
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cosmo20002 07:46 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Trump's future Palm Beach neighbors seek legal action to keep him out
I think this is actually pretty interesting.
Mar-a-Lago used to be a private residence. But back in the 90s he wanted to renovate it into a club/resort. So deals were made with the city and part of the deal was that if it was going to be a resort, and specifically and literally, it could not be a residence. There are even limits on how long people can stay and such.

So, not only is Trump not really allowed to live there as his home after he leaves office, it also means he's been voting illegally since he's listed Mar-a-Lago as his residence even though it is specifically barred from being a residence.

I think the Florida election results need to be overturned based on this fraud.
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Easy 6 07:57 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"

He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.
Navy SEAL copy pasta fan fiction for the TDS afflicted
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banyon 08:05 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
I think this is actually pretty interesting.
Mar-a-Lago used to be a private residence. But back in the 90s he wanted to renovate it into a club/resort. So deals were made with the city and part of the deal was that if it was going to be a resort, and specifically and literally, it could not be a residence. There are even limits on how long people can stay and such.

So, not only is Trump not really allowed to live there as his home after he leaves office, it also means he's been voting illegally since he's listed Mar-a-Lago as his residence even though it is specifically barred from being a residence.

I think the Florida election results need to be overturned based on this fraud.
I get the appeal of the story, but I think itís only illegal in the sense that itís a violation of the neighborhood land covenants. I have covenants that came with my property such as that I canít run a chicken coop on my plot. It creates a cause of action civilly between the neighbors and Trump that they can sue for breach of those covenants.

I do not think, however that the State of Florida with respect to voting residency rules is bound by the results of such a suit. For most states and voting purposes, residency just means where you live more than 180 days out of the year. You donít have to own any property to meet that definition. Trump could live under a bridge from January to July and meet that definition whether he owned property or not. So, as long as Trump was physically there, which we all know he was every chance he got, I doubt very much that election authorities would see it as a violation.
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banyon 08:06 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"

He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.
I think Trump would manage to stall it out on stays and appeals until his health failed is my best guess. I mean just look how long heís dragged on his tax case.
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banyon 08:07 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Eugene V. Debs was in an Atlanta penitentiary, serving a ten-year sentence, when he lost the 1920 presidential election.
James Traficant got about 20% from prison too around 2002 I think.
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banyon 08:09 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Just what are you doing then?

I do that to you because you alter my words to worsen them repeatedly and make strawman points. That's not communication. It's dishonesty. For someone who claims to be using superior logic, your use of the strawman is just as much a logical fallacy. Ironic how your own superiority complex is protesting condescension. Can't make it up!

I can debunk your points but you endlessly argue to the point of a dead horse and stalk from thread to thread. I can't be bothered with being tied down to one poster with walls of text—and from lying scum media sources no less and who uses dishonesty. I prefer to choose my battles.

And there is no such thing as "fake ignore" since quotes can be seen. And I can ignore at will for periods of time and then not ignore as much as I want. But you being a socialist prog, think you know how best someone should use a feature even if they don't use it formally.
Yes, as I said, understandably my presence bothers you greatly, evidenced by your continual need to delegitimize my right to even post here, and I’ve correctly stated why.
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Bob Dole 09:13 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"

He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.
Can you just go back to posting awesome telescope pictures?
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GloryDayz 09:24 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
Can you just go back to posting awesome telescope pictures?
Give him time, he's just coming out of a TDS coma.
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GloryDayz 09:25 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"

He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.

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Mephistopheles Janx 02:34 PM 12-17-2020

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banyon 02:38 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx:
New York Supreme Court Judge Arthur Engoron told the Trump Organization to give James' office all communications involving Ralph Mastromonaco, an engineer who had worked on Trump's Seven Springs estate in Westchester County, outside of New York City. Tuesday's decision is a reversal for Engoron, who in October agreed with the Trump Organization's argument that the documents in question were shielded under attorney-client privilege because Mastromonaco was providing expertise to a company attorney. Engoron now says that a lawyer's involvement is no longer reason enough to shield business documents.


"The mere presence of an attorney on an email chain amongst an organization's employees does not trigger the cloak of attorney-client privilege," he wrote. "Moreover, a client waives the privilege if communications are made in the presence of a third party."
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lawrenceRaider 02:41 PM 12-17-2020
This'll really be it it this time!
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Easy 6 02:47 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
This'll really be it it this time!
!!!!!!
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