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Washington DC and The Holy Land>The Trump Family Post-Inauguration Prosecution Tracking Thread
banyon 04:42 PM 12-15-2020
Jurisdiction--- Category of Crime ------Likely Defendants----Current Status
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1. Federal (DOJ) - Obstruction of Justice-- Trump-- Pending review by new AG

(Mueller Probe which documented obstruction of its investigation, but held that DOJ memo stated that a stitting president couldn't be indicted)

2. Federal (DOJ)- Bribery of Foreign Officials- Trump, Giuliani—Pending Review by new AG

(Trump's solicitation of Ukrainian President Zelensky with military aid to announce investigation of his political opponent Biden)

3. Federal (DOJ)- Conspiracy to Defraud US/Interfere with Mail -- Trump, Dejoy- Pending Review by new AG

(Dejoy's documented efforts to sabotage US mail systems ahead of election with largest ever mail in vote)

4. Federal (DC District Court) -Misuse of 2016 Inauguration money- Ivanka Trump, Don Jr, Trump- Investigation Underway, Depositions taken

(Allegations that Inauguration proceeds went to benefit Trump family

5. Federal/State (NY-Manhattan) - Campaign Finance Violation/Tax Evasion- Trump, Cohen- Pending Review by New AG/In NY Grand Jury Proceedings Currently-*update 2/22/21 Trump Supreme Court appeal denied- subpoena appeals exhausted*

(Attempt to classify payoff to porn star ahead of 2016 election as "legal services" and deduction of amount from business profits)

6. State (NY- Manhattan)- Loan App Falsification- Trump, Cohen - Currently in NY Grand Jury Proceedings

(Misstatement of assets on numerous loan applications and tax forms in order to obtain loans and avoid taxes)

7. State (NY- Albany)- Fraudulent use of charitable deductions- Eric Trump, Ivanka, Trump- Currently under investigation by NY AG , Depositions taken

8. State (DC)- Insurrection/Inciting a Riot at the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021- Trump, Giuliani, Don Jr., under investigation by DC Atty Gen.

(Misuse of 7 Springs property/Taxation issues)

9. State (GA) - Solicitation to Commit Election Fraud- Donald Trump, Giuliani, under investigation by Fulton County DA

Did I miss any?

Will be updated as things progress.

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BucEyedPea 10:53 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
It's funny how many people are outraged at this thread, but haven't thought of one single thing to say bout why it's not accurate.
They were only discussed repeatedly parsing all of the points for 4 years while you hid, cringing over the idea of Trump being president. You're a day late and a dollar short. Not gonna let you get away with falsely alleging how no one has a "single thing to say" on this. So much for your own credibility or lack of facts.
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banyon 10:55 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
They were only discussed repeatedly parsing all of the points for 4 years while you hid, cringing over the idea of Trump being president. You're a day late and a dollar short. Not gonna let you get away with falsely alleging how no one has a "single thing to say" on this.
If that comforts you, then continue to think that.

I know in the past it has disturbed you greatly when you were not able to discuss the substance of my posts at a high level without descending into personal attacks and hiding yourself with your "fake ignore" nonsense.
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banyon 11:00 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Posts Russia!Gate as first point. Then says “I’m not interested in rehashing Russia!Gate”^^^^
The obstruction is a separate offense from "russiagate" it does not require active collusion or anything with Russia to be meritorious.

Mueller detailed 10 episodes which could form the basis for charges.

So, to the extent you are discussing the actual offense, fine.

It is interesting to note, however, that today they have now linked one of the largest cybersecurity hacks of the US Government in history to *yes* RUSSIA!!11!, and Trump , of course, has not condemned it.
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eDave 05:16 PM 12-16-2020
Trump's future Palm Beach neighbors seek legal action to keep him out
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IowaHawkeyeChief 05:57 PM 12-16-2020
this is laughable... The defense discovery requests in Ukraine and Russia will keep the Biden DOJ as far as fuck away from this..
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BucEyedPea 06:17 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
If that comforts you, then continue to think that.

I know in the past it has disturbed you greatly when you were not able to discuss the substance of my posts at a high level without descending into personal attacks and hiding yourself with your "fake ignore" nonsense.
Just what are you doing then?

I do that to you because you alter my words to worsen them repeatedly and make strawman points. That's not communication. It's dishonesty. For someone who claims to be using superior logic, your use of the strawman is just as much a logical fallacy. Ironic how your own superiority complex is protesting condescension. Can't make it up!

I can debunk your points but you endlessly argue to the point of a dead horse and stalk from thread to thread. I can't be bothered with being tied down to one poster with walls of text—and from lying scum media sources no less and who uses dishonesty. I prefer to choose my battles.

And there is no such thing as "fake ignore" since quotes can be seen. And I can ignore at will for periods of time and then not ignore as much as I want. But you being a socialist prog, think you know how best someone should use a feature even if they don't use it formally.
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Bob Dole 06:22 PM 12-16-2020
Iím not sure you can obstruct an investigation of fiction. But you go!
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Dave Lane 07:06 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Bump:
Ya that part is hilarious. Like everyone is just going to forget all of their unhinged biased screams over the past 5 years.

What they really want is everyone to conform to their ridiculous ideals and to trust corporate media unconditionally and without question.
I don't want unity with any trumper. Ever.
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GloryDayz 07:06 PM 12-16-2020
I wonder how many Republicans are going to work hard to get him put in jail so that he can't run in 2024 (as an Independent if need be) to be sure to keep the Dems in the White House for not having supported him enough?

:-)
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Dave Lane 07:08 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Didn't you start the "9/11 is a inside job" thread?
TJ: Well that and the Pizzagate thread, but yes it has to be in the top 500 of threads I didn't start.
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Dave Lane 07:09 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
I wonder how many Republicans are going to work hard to get him put in jail so that he can't run in 2024 (as an Independent if need be) to be sure to keep the Dems in the White House for not having supported him enough?

:-)
Actually my research indicates you could run for president from in prison, so its a possibility I suppose.
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eDave 07:14 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
Actually my research indicates you could run for president from in prison, so its a possibility I suppose.
Eugene V. Debs was in an Atlanta penitentiary, serving a ten-year sentence, when he lost the 1920 presidential election.
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Dave Lane 07:16 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
It's funny how many people are outraged at this thread, but haven't thought of one single thing to say bout why it's not accurate.
My brother, who was the Director of one of the big three letter agencies in DC, assured me a couple months ago trump will die in prison. "Think of whatever crap you pulled in your business life and take that times 1,000 and that's what they have on him"

He's a big shot lawyer now that voted for trump in 2016 and a 1% republican worth 100 millionish. It's going to be interesting how much time he does. I'm just here to enjoy the tears and the squealing. I'll get a scotch read a few threads laugh till I get my ab work in, and then move on to something productive, like Skyrim.
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Dave Lane 07:17 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Eugene V. Debs was in an Atlanta penitentiary, serving a ten-year sentence, when he lost the 1920 presidential election.
So trump is older than we thought :-)
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GloryDayz 07:20 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
Actually my research indicates you could run for president from in prison, so its a possibility I suppose.
He might actually do it then. So the GOP might have a vested interest in doing whatever it takes to keep him comfortable and out of jail.
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