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Washington DC and The Holy Land>The Trump Family Post-Inauguration Prosecution Tracking Thread
banyon 04:42 PM 12-15-2020
Jurisdiction--- Category of Crime ------Likely Defendants----Current Status
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1. Federal (DOJ) - Obstruction of Justice-- Trump-- Pending review by new AG

(Mueller Probe which documented obstruction of its investigation, but held that DOJ memo stated that a stitting president couldn't be indicted)

2. Federal (DOJ)- Bribery of Foreign Officials- Trump, Giuliani—Pending Review by new AG

(Trump's solicitation of Ukrainian President Zelensky with military aid to announce investigation of his political opponent Biden)

3. Federal (DOJ)- Conspiracy to Defraud US/Interfere with Mail -- Trump, Dejoy- Pending Review by new AG

(Dejoy's documented efforts to sabotage US mail systems ahead of election with largest ever mail in vote)

4. Federal (DC District Court) -Misuse of 2016 Inauguration money- Ivanka Trump, Don Jr, Trump- Investigation Underway, Depositions taken

(Allegations that Inauguration proceeds went to benefit Trump family

5. Federal/State (NY-Manhattan) - Campaign Finance Violation/Tax Evasion- Trump, Cohen- Pending Review by New AG/In NY Grand Jury Proceedings Currently-*update 2/22/21 Trump Supreme Court appeal denied- subpoena appeals exhausted*

(Attempt to classify payoff to porn star ahead of 2016 election as "legal services" and deduction of amount from business profits)

6. State (NY- Manhattan)- Loan App Falsification- Trump, Cohen - Currently in NY Grand Jury Proceedings

(Misstatement of assets on numerous loan applications and tax forms in order to obtain loans and avoid taxes)

7. State (NY- Albany)- Fraudulent use of charitable deductions- Eric Trump, Ivanka, Trump- Currently under investigation by NY AG , Depositions taken

8. State (DC)- Insurrection/Inciting a Riot at the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021- Trump, Giuliani, Don Jr., under investigation by DC Atty Gen.

(Misuse of 7 Springs property/Taxation issues)

9. State (GA) - Solicitation to Commit Election Fraud- Donald Trump, Giuliani, under investigation by Fulton County DA

Did I miss any?

Will be updated as things progress.

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cosmo20002 08:23 PM 01-02-2021
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stevieray 07:04 AM 01-03-2021
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
^commenting on fashion. Things a woman would say.:-)
Still stings, huh?

1. Fashion is a word women use. Thanks for continuing to expose your feminine brain.

2. You've been trolled hard. So bad, it even got Donger, too..I don't care if he wore a tutu. once again it's over your head.

:-)
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banyon 01:41 PM 01-11-2021
White House counsel and former Attorney General Barr warned Trump not to self-pardon
From CNN's Pamela Brown and Jamie Gangel

Michael Reynolds/Pool/Getty Images/FILE

White House counsel Pat Cipollone and former Attorney General William Barr have warned President Trump that they do not believe he should pardon himself, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.

Barr conveyed this position to Trump before resigning last month, sources say.

Trump has in recent weeks raised the idea of pardoning himself, as well as members of his family, though it is not known if he has done so since Wednesday’s attack on the Capitol.

Trump has been heavily criticized for his role inciting the attack. Over the weekend, the acting US Attorney for the District of Columbia told NPR that top prosecutors will follow every investigative lead they can to determine people’s roles in the attack, even if that involves scrutinizing government officials.

White House officials are also contemplating how the federal investigation into the insurrection impacts other pardons Trump has discussed, such as for his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani who called for "trial for combat" at Wednesday’s rally before the Capitol was stormed.

"The situation in DC has raised issues within the White House even on the pardons," one person close to the White House says.

Additional pardons are expected from the White House before Trump leaves office next week.

CNN did not immediately hear back from the White House and Barr did not immediately provide a comment to CNN.

Some context: Presidential pardon power is untested and sources say both Barr and Cipollone thought it would be a bad idea for Trump to try to pardon himself.

Barr believes a 1974 Justice Department legal memo finding that the President cannot pardon himself should stand, and that Cipollone has not asked the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel for a re-examination of the issue, according to two sources.

The memo does say, however, that a sitting president can resign the office and then be pardoned by his vice president once that person assumes the presidency. That is what happened when President Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon in 1974.

Two separate sources close to Vice President Mike Pence say it is highly unlikely that Pence would issue a pardon to Trump in this scenario. Pence had been a loyal supporter of the President, but now feels frustrated and disappointed with Trump for his behavior around the insurrection and not calling to check on him during and after the riots, multiple sources say.

Trump could still pardon himself even if his administration officials don’t approve of the action. A self-pardon would only extend to federal crimes, and not protect Trump from state actions, including an investigation by New York state prosecutors into Trump’s personal and corporate finances.

Typically, the White House counsel's office would ask the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel to issue an opinion on weighty legal issues. This office is responsible for giving opinions on executive branch power, and in general tends to take an expansive view of presidential power.

Barr and Cipollone's opposition to Trump pardoning himself is notable because both have been staunch defenders of Trump wielding an expansive executive authority during both the Russia probe and the 2020 impeachment proceedings over his call with the Ukrainian president.

Both men have recently been at odds with the President over his election lie. Barr left his post in December after publicly stating there was no widespread election fraud and Cipollone has considered resigning in recent weeks after strongly disagreeing with the President and his desire to use his office to overturn the election results.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-21/index.html
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banyon 01:58 PM 01-14-2021

NEW: The DC attorney generalís office has notified Donald Trump Jr. that it would like to interview him as part of its investigation into misuse of President Trumpís inaugural funds, a spokesperson with the office tells at CNN.

— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) January 14, 2021


Note:added Don Jr to #4
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eDave 11:14 PM 01-14-2021
Nothing to prosecute, but this is pretty shitty behavior:

Instructed not to use any of the half-dozen bathrooms inside the couple’s house, the Secret Service detail assigned to President Trump’s daughter and son-in-law spent months searching for a reliable restroom to use on the job, according to neighbors and law enforcement officials. After resorting to a porta-potty, as well as bathrooms at the nearby home of former president Barack Obama and the not-so-nearby residence of Vice President Pence, the agents finally found a toilet to call their own.

But it came at a cost to U.S. taxpayers. Since September 2017, the federal government has been spending $3,000 a month — more than $100,000 to date — to rent a basement studio, with a bathroom, from a neighbor of the Kushner family.

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cosmo20002 11:22 PM 01-14-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
White House counsel and former Attorney General Barr warned Trump not to self-pardon
From CNN's Pamela Brown and Jamie Gangel

Trump could still pardon himself even if his administration officials donít approve of the action. A self-pardon would only extend to federal crimes, and not protect Trump from state actions, including an investigation by New York state prosecutors into Trumpís personal and corporate finances.

Typically, the White House counsel's office would ask the Justice Departmentís Office of Legal Counsel to issue an opinion on weighty legal issues. This office is responsible for giving opinions on executive branch power, and in general tends to take an expansive view of presidential power.

Barr and Cipollone's opposition to Trump pardoning himself is notable because both have been staunch defenders of Trump wielding an expansive executive authority during both the Russia probe and the 2020 impeachment proceedings over his call with the Ukrainian president.

Both men have recently been at odds with the President over his election lie. Barr left his post in December after publicly stating there was no widespread election fraud and Cipollone has considered resigning in recent weeks after strongly disagreeing with the President and his desire to use his office to overturn the election results.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-21/index.html
I don't think a self-pardon will protect Trump from anything because it would be found to be invalid if ever challenged.
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Cosmos 12:39 AM 01-15-2021
Originally Posted by eDave:
Nothing to prosecute, but this is pretty shitty behavior:

Instructed not to use any of the half-dozen bathrooms inside the coupleís house, the Secret Service detail assigned to President Trumpís daughter and son-in-law spent months searching for a reliable restroom to use on the job, according to neighbors and law enforcement officials. After resorting to a porta-potty, as well as bathrooms at the nearby home of former president Barack Obama and the not-so-nearby residence of Vice President Pence, the agents finally found a toilet to call their own.

But it came at a cost to U.S. taxpayers. Since September 2017, the federal government has been spending $3,000 a month ó more than $100,000 to date ó to rent a basement studio, with a bathroom, from a neighbor of the Kushner family.
So Kushner got his neighbor $100,000 of taxpayer dollars just so SS PROTECTING these leaches could take a piss....Not an insignificant amount of money?

Yet the Obamas let the SS protecting these leaches use one of their heads...at no cost to the taxpayers apparently.

Of that $100,000 of taxpayer money, how much do you figure was kicked back to Javanka...via The Kushner Grift Plan?

A special class of people....Amazing, but never surprising.
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eDave 12:51 AM 01-15-2021
Originally Posted by Cosmos:
So Kushner got his neighbor $100,000 of taxpayer dollars just so SS PROTECTING these leaches could take a piss....Not an insignificant amount of money?

Yet the Obamas let the SS protecting these leaches use one of their heads...at no cost to the taxpayers apparently.

Of that $100,000 of taxpayer money, how much do you figure was kicked back to Javanka...via The Kushner Grift Plan?

A special class of people....Amazing, but never surprising.
Buying votes to get into the country club they are currently not invited to because of who they are.

Yea, they are a real piece of work.
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banyon 08:46 PM 02-18-2021
Cyrus Vance hires famed mob prosecutor/defense lawyer specially to prosecute Trump:

BREAKING ON TRUMP FINANCIAL CRIMINAL CASE: Mark Pomerantz is the real deal; This would not be happening if there were not a there there.

Manhattan D.A. Recruits Top Prosecutor for Trump Inquiry https://t.co/RWGlLCVwEu

— Andrew Weissmann (@AWeissmann_) February 18, 2021

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Ninerfan11 11:01 PM 02-18-2021
:-) LOOK AT THIS MENTAL ILLNESS:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ngton-cemetery
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Dallas Chief 06:46 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by Ninerfan11:
:-) LOOK AT THIS MENTAL ILLNESS:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ngton-cemetery
Hoes mad. Bigly.
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scorpio 07:19 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by Ninerfan11:
:-) LOOK AT THIS MENTAL ILLNESS:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ngton-cemetery
Would that fat idiot even fit in a normal sized grave?
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lawrenceRaider 07:25 AM 02-19-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
Cyrus Vance hires famed mob prosecutor/defense lawyer specially to prosecute Trump:

We'll see if anything comes of this. The campaign finance stuff will amount to a fine at the end of the day, just like the prior administration who received the largest fine for improper campaign finance stuff to date.

The rest of it would never even be a thing if it wasn't Trump as it is business as usual for most, if not all, big real estate companies.
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banyon 11:16 AM 02-22-2021
Updated #5, added #9

Supreme court rejects Trump's request to shield tax returns from Manhattan DA
The supreme court has rejected Donald Trump’s request to block New York prosecutors from gaining access to his tax returns.

In a one-sentence unsigned order, the court ruled that it would not step in to prevent the Manhattan district attorney’s office from obtaining eight years of Trump’s financial documents from his accounting firm.

The court’s decision clears the way for the documents to be turned over to a grand jury that has been convened as part of an investigation into Trump’s business dealings in New York.

The decision marks a serious defeat for Trump, who has fought for years to keep his tax returns from the public. The tax returns will not be publicly released as part of the grand jury investigation, but the former president has nevertheless launched extensive legal battles to block access to the documents.

In a tweet addressing the decision, Manhattan district attorney Cy Vance said, “The work continues.”
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SuperBowl4 05:37 PM 02-24-2021
Trump may have to answer rape allegations under oath - Jerusalem Post -> http://jpost.com
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