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Washington DC and The Holy Land>The Trump Family Post-Inauguration Prosecution Tracking Thread
banyon 04:42 PM 12-15-2020
Jurisdiction--- Category of Crime ------Likely Defendants----Current Status
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1. Federal (DOJ) - Obstruction of Justice-- Trump-- Pending review by new AG

(Mueller Probe which documented obstruction of its investigation, but held that DOJ memo stated that a stitting president couldn't be indicted)

2. Federal (DOJ)- Bribery of Foreign Officials- Trump, Giuliani—Pending Review by new AG

(Trump's solicitation of Ukrainian President Zelensky with military aid to announce investigation of his political opponent Biden)

3. Federal (DOJ)- Conspiracy to Defraud US/Interfere with Mail -- Trump, Dejoy- Pending Review by new AG

(Dejoy's documented efforts to sabotage US mail systems ahead of election with largest ever mail in vote)

4. Federal (DC District Court) -Misuse of 2016 Inauguration money- Ivanka Trump, Don Jr, Trump- Investigation Underway, Depositions taken

(Allegations that Inauguration proceeds went to benefit Trump family

5. Federal/State (NY-Manhattan) - Campaign Finance Violation/Tax Evasion- Trump, Cohen- Pending Review by New AG/In NY Grand Jury Proceedings Currently-*update 2/22/21 Trump Supreme Court appeal denied- subpoena appeals exhausted*

(Attempt to classify payoff to porn star ahead of 2016 election as "legal services" and deduction of amount from business profits)

6. State (NY- Manhattan)- Loan App Falsification- Trump, Cohen - Currently in NY Grand Jury Proceedings

(Misstatement of assets on numerous loan applications and tax forms in order to obtain loans and avoid taxes)

7. State (NY- Albany)- Fraudulent use of charitable deductions- Eric Trump, Ivanka, Trump- Currently under investigation by NY AG , Depositions taken

8. State (DC)- Insurrection/Inciting a Riot at the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021- Trump, Giuliani, Don Jr., under investigation by DC Atty Gen.

(Misuse of 7 Springs property/Taxation issues)

9. State (GA) - Solicitation to Commit Election Fraud- Donald Trump, Giuliani, under investigation by Fulton County DA

Did I miss any?

Will be updated as things progress.

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banyon 05:59 PM 12-17-2020
Update on #3

U.S. Postal Service employee charged for throwing out mail, including more than 100 absentee ballots - CBS News https://t.co/arvVo83aML

— MissouriBluebird (@BluebirdsofMO) October 27, 2020

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Mr. Kotter 09:33 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
Update on #3

Ballots from redlined neighborhoods, no doubt.... :-)
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banyon 09:19 AM 12-18-2020

TRUMP PLANS TO ISSUE A WAVE OF PARDONS TODAY, AXIOS REPORTS

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) December 18, 2020

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Eureka 11:55 AM 12-18-2020
Still going after Trump? This is unbelievable. Investigate him while he's president and after?

Biden will be in office soon and some of Trumps haters will still be singing Trump Trump Trump. Meanwhile they won't even bat an eye at anything Biden does.

Soon everything negative that happens during Biden's administration will be blamed on Trump.
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banyon 11:59 AM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by Eureka:
Still going after Trump? This is unbelievable. Investigate him while he's president and after?

Biden will be in office soon and some of Trumps haters will still be singing Trump Trump Trump. Meanwhile they won't even bat an eye at anything Biden does.

Soon everything negative that happens during Biden's administration will be blamed on Trump.
Of course. The only reason they couldn't prosecute him was because of the DOJ memo (you can't indict a sitting president) that will no longer be effective Jan 20.

It's very important not to set a precedent that a President can commit crimes in office and then run out the clock and not be accountable for them.

Imagine a newer Trumpy president, but more clever who would get away with all manner of crimes.

This president actually tried to put his thumb on the scale twice for the election, once during the Ukraine saga, and again during the postal service sabotage. What's to stop a future president from just being more aggressive about it?
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vailpass 12:01 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
Well, someone does NOT like this info being spoken about:
Posting about rep is for retarts. You've been here long enough to know that. Has your TDS thrown you off?
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banyon 12:03 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Posting about rep is for retarts. You've been here long enough to know that. Has your TDS thrown you off?
It's not as if the neg rep bothered me, it's more the constant attempt to censor things she disagrees with being posted.
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vailpass 12:30 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
It's not as if the neg rep bothered me, it's more the constant attempt to censor things she disagrees with being posted.
So it's like Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit, only with views with which you disagree?
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banyon 12:44 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
So it's like Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit, only with views with which you disagree?
No. It's not worth getting into.
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Eureka 02:01 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
Of course. The only reason they couldn't prosecute him was because of the DOJ memo (you can't indict a sitting president) that will no longer be effective Jan 20.

It's very important not to set a precedent that a President can commit crimes in office and then run out the clock and not be accountable for them.

Imagine a newer Trumpy president, but more clever who would get away with all manner of crimes.

This president actually tried to put his thumb on the scale twice for the election, once during the Ukraine saga, and again during the postal service sabotage. What's to stop a future president from just being more aggressive about it?
I see your view as well. I just think it also doesn't set a good precedent to go after presidents once they get out of office. Democrats have been going after Trump since he won the presidency and now they want to continue it afterwards.

You think he's guilty of crimes only because of the political side of the isle you fall on. There is no denying that.
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Prison Bitch 02:02 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
Of course. The only reason they couldn't prosecute him was because of the DOJ memo (you can't indict a sitting president) that will no longer be effective Jan 20.

Two lies in one post. Good work.
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banyon 02:04 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Two lies in one post. Good work.
Already been through this. Showed you the video testimony, you were mistaken. Mueller said that they did not reach a decision on charging because of OLC Memo.
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eDave 02:07 PM 12-18-2020
Joe Exotic sues Trump administration for denying his pardon request
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Prison Bitch 02:08 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
Already been through this. Showed you the video testimony, you were mistaken. Mueller said that they did not reach a decision on charging because of OLC Memo.

Yes, Iím aware you lied about it previously.

That wasnít my point.
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banyon 02:24 PM 12-18-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Yes, I’m aware you lied about it previously.

That wasn’t my point.
You never showed it was a lie. I posted the video and you shut up about it. Should I post it again?

(In any event we are talking about our recollections of something which someone can be mistaken about without implicating honesty).
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