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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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stevieray 09:03 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by Don Corlemahomes:
The cdc actually addressed this by coming up with an "excess deaths associated with covid" metric. I suggest you check it out.
And where does covid rank with yearly deaths?

Run along now.
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F150 09:04 AM 12-02-2020
https://www.newsmax.com/us/red-cross.../01/id/999567/


Red Cross Chief Warns of COVID-19 Vaccine Misinformation


So much misinformation and lies.
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Monticore 09:07 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
The whole point of the anti abortion thing is that it's NOT their body
I was just trolling him
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Don Corlemahomes 09:09 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
And where does covid rank with yearly deaths?

Run along now.
Why does this matter?!?! Why are you okay with 200k+ dying because a lot of other people die of other things, too? What kind of fucked up logic is that?

When did a large part of this country stop listening to people who study this every day and get into this mindset that they can be little amateur epidemiologists?
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BucEyedPea 09:18 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by F150:
https://www.newsmax.com/us/red-cross.../01/id/999567/


Red Cross Chief Warns of COVID-19 Vaccine Misinformation


So much misinformation and lies.
And you've fallen for all of them, blindly without examination, because the Establishment makes them instead of questioning.

If these things are as safe as they are, that industry would not need exemption from liability and would have to withstand what the market thinks is best—NOT what the state pushes. It was the doctors in congress, who voted against that rushed H1N1 vaccine, that wound up killing and harming people because safety protocols were set aside for speed.
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stevieray 09:19 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by Don Corlemahomes:
Why does this matter?!?!
marginalize those deaths, hypocrite.
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BucEyedPea 09:23 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by Don Corlemahomes:
Why does this matter?!?! Why are you okay with 200k+ dying because a lot of other people die of other things, too? What kind of ****ed up logic is that?

When did a large part of this country stop listening to people who study this every day and get into this mindset that they can be little amateur epidemiologists?
The statistics are a hoax. You heard Scarf Lady, aka Dr. Birx, say to label anyone with covid on them who died from a co-morbidity or something else as a covid stat. Hospitals were incentivized to do that with big money being rewarded for calling it a covid death. Unethical. Medical ethics are no better than a trash dumpster in some. Money corrupts.

Not only that but the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, says it's crap for testing. It can find anything in anybody.
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kcpasco 09:25 AM 12-02-2020
Harris said she wouldn’t take a vaccine under a Trump administration. Why should I trust a Biden one?
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Don Corlemahomes 09:27 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
marginalize those deaths, hypocrite.
Your ability to occasionally form some type of thought is an absolute miracle. I would nominate a deaf and blind sloth to the covid task force before you.
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stevieray 09:28 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by Don Corlemahomes:
Your ability to occasionally form some type of thought is an absolute miracle. I would nominate a deaf and blind sloth to the covid task force before you.
tapout acknowledged.
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VAChief 09:28 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
The statistics are a hoax. You heard Scarf Lady, aka Dr. Birx, say to calling anyone with covid on them but dead from a co-morbidity or something else a covid stat. Hospitals were incentivized to do that with big money being rewarded for calling it a covid death. Unethical. Medical ethics are no better than a trash dumpster in some.

Not only that but inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, says it's crap for testing. It can find anything in anybody.
The statistics they report have been pretty consistent with the number of excess deaths expected annually (from everything). If you feel there is bias in reporting, I would not be surprised by scattered cases of it, but you are also likely to find those who were not reported (especially those who died at home).

It isn't a hoax and I think even you know it. You can debate whether the response is proportional to what is needed, but even Trump has declared it a Pandemic, and he has we know as no problem shredding the truth on a daily basis.
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BucEyedPea 09:30 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by VAChief:
The statistics they report have been pretty consistent with the number of excess deaths expected annually (from everything). If you feel there is bias in reporting, and I would not be surprised by scattered cases of it, but you are also likely to find those who were not reported (especially those who died at home).

It isn't a hoax and I think even you know it. You can debate whether the response is proportional to what is needed, but even Trump has declared it a Pandemic, and he as we know as no problem shredding the truth on a daily basis.
NOPE

Like I said before, Trump got schlonged on this one too.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."~ Mark Twain
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Don Corlemahomes 09:36 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
The statistics are a hoax. You heard Scarf Lady, aka Dr. Birx, say to label anyone with covid on them who died from a co-morbidity or something else as a covid stat. Hospitals were incentivized to do that with big money being rewarded for calling it a covid death. Unethical. Medical ethics are no better than a trash dumpster in some. Money corrupts.

Not only that but the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, says it's crap for testing. It can find anything in anybody.
Your first paragraph has no basis in reality. It's so cooky and unsubstantiated.

But to your second point about the PCR test. What do you know about the 2019-nCoV oligonucleotide sequences that are targeted by the taqman PCR probes? Do you feel like there's cross-reaction with other viruses that cause them to amplify and cause a false positive test? Or is it contamination even when we have very good protocols that can control for that? I'm very interested to hear your thoughts!
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VAChief 09:37 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
NOPE

Like I said before, Trump got schlonged on this one too.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."~ Mark Twain
Trump and every world leader on the planet apparently. The deep, deep, deep state all in it with corporate toilet paper globalists apparently.

I notice you don't address the nearly identical excess deaths occurring this year that line up with reported COVID deaths. Other than to just put your fingers in your ears and close your eyes as usual.
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Don Corlemahomes 09:39 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
tapout acknowledged.
Er, what? I feel like we were about to play chess but you shit on the board, knocked over my king, and proclaimed victory.
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